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Subject: Can Honduras coup claim continue?
PPR    12/3/2009 12:33:07 AM
"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_honduras_coup" Can the outside world continue to call the ouster of Manuel Zelaya a coup? He was ousted by his own party with the support of the Supreme Court and legislature. The regularly-scheduled election which followed elected the opposition party to the presidency (proving it was a legitimately democratic election). A vote reinstate Zelaya failed overwhelmingly--even though his own party controlled the congress. This wasn't a coup. It was the removal of a treasonous executive who conspired with a foreign power (Venezuela) to impose a dictatorship and incited violent mobs to attack his own government. Honduras should be praised for its courage and its commmittment to a REAL democracy.
 
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smitty237    Nan   12/10/2009 6:21:23 PM
 
@ Smitty,
 
Odd how you naturally paint a scenario involving Obama.  And how typical that you believe that Christianity is soooo much better than  other religions.  I wonder how the Jews feel about Christians over the centuries....
 
So let me get this straight.......bringing up Obama in a thread involving an international incident in which not only the U.S. State Department but President Obama himself expressed an official position condemning the "coup" is somehow out of bounds, but it was it was perfectly appropriate for you to take a swipe at Christianity in your response?  Huh?????  I give up. 
 
First of all, Obama was quick to take sides in this issue and immediately demanded Zelaya be returned to power.  He backed this up with threats to cut off aid to Guatemala.  In my opinion Obama and the State Department made a rush to judgement before they had all the facts and had conducted a thorough analysis of the issue.  I think it is entirely fair and appropriate for Obama to face some scrutiny on this issue.
 
Secondly, if I honestly thought any other religion was better then mine wouldn't it make sense for me to follow it instead?  On your point involving the Jews, I've never understood anti-Semitism either since Christianity is based upon the worship of a Jewish carpenter, so I can't help ya.  I can't vouch for what bad people claiming to be Christians have done in the past. 
 
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smitty237    Errata   12/11/2009 12:51:03 AM
Ugh.  Honduras, not Guatemala.  Jeesh. 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       12/12/2009 1:46:30 PM

@ Smitty,
Odd how you naturally paint a scenario involving Obama.  And how typical that you believe that Christianity is soooo much better than  other religions.  I wonder how the Jews feel about Christians over the centuries.... 
 
First of all, Obama was quick to take sides in this issue and immediately demanded Zelaya be returned to power.  He backed this up with threats to cut off aid to Guatemala.  In my opinion Obama and the State Department made a rush to judgement before they had all the facts and had conducted a thorough analysis of the issue.  I think it is entirely fair and appropriate for Obama to face some scrutiny on this issue. 
So let me get this straight.......bringing up Obama in a thread involving an international incident in which not only the U.S. State Department but President Obama himself expressed an official position condemning the "coup" is somehow out of bounds, but it was it was perfectly appropriate for you to take a swipe at Christianity in your response?  Huh?????  I give up. 
 
It was Obama's bad move, but based on recommendations of the US Ambassador to Honduras, who was a Bush appointee.
"http://honduras.usembassy.gov/ambassador.html"
 
I do wonder why the ambassador was so animate to defend a known drug runner (Zelaya).

Secondly, if I honestly thought any other religion was better then mine wouldn't it make sense for me to follow it instead?  On your point involving the Jews, I've never understood anti-Semitism either since Christianity is based upon the worship of a Jewish carpenter, so I can't help ya.  I can't vouch for what bad people claiming to be Christians have done in the past. 

 
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