I should have stopped when I correctly named Darth a 'Moral Relativist'.    Most who suffer from that cognitive impairment are unable to perceive bounds/limits/proportions/scalar issues.  And since slavery/genocide was carried out by ALL our ancestors, we are all the moral equivalent of NAZIs in Darth's mind from what he posts here. 

 

/so it begs the question why did Darth serve in the US military and why should anyone want Darth's support in an argument much less in a firefight? 

Thanks, Maximus! Nice to hear:)

 

There are times when it would be easier to learn a certain topic and become an expert in it, than it would be to keep track on why someone is calling what and why, who started it... and what the original point was.

 

"No, I know what you said I didn't need to know, but since I didn't, I'll know and you don't."

 

"You would be an idiot if your previously demonstrated lack of understanding on modern day logics about my argumentation chain four pages back had any chance of pointing out what I said was wrong before you started going in to specifics on the subject, still in denial of your moral bias and for what I told you. Youuuu stinky!"

 

M

Again, rather than allow your emotions to get in the way of trying to learn and understand my point of view, open up and ask questions. You would learn much.

-DA 

PS Vulture you are an idiot. 

-DA

I'm already bored but let's play.  What should I be asking you?  It's all unknown unknowns to me because AFAIK the next fact you tell me that I don't know, on this thread at least, will be the first.  You think I don't know anything about slavery?  Think that's the first time I saw those very photos?  What are you getting at?  I do assure you that at this point my emotions are limited to mild annoyance - at least in this domain; I just had bad news about a friend that makes me very indifferent to this whole thing.  So throw me a bone here.  Or don't, whatever.

 

 

And...I see we're back to where we usually are when it comes to arguments with Darth.  He's right, we're wrong; we can never be right and he can never admit to being wrong.  Or even admit to someone else having a viable argument.  Basically, Darth is the perfect Progressive, and if Obama hasn't hired him yet, he should. 

 

That book you cited to me, DA?  Just a tad biased, don't you think?  It would be like me telling you to look up The Politiically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War--which holds that the Civil War was never about slavery.  We both know that's crap.  So is the comparison between slavery and the Holocaust, or the Holocaust and Jim Crow.

 

I asked you to provide me a list of people who died due to slavery.  You couldn't.  All you could provide was "IT WAS JUST AS BAD!"  Well, it wasn't, DA, and you know it.  For all the hell that the slaves lived through, they were fed.  They were not gassed.  They were whipped, sometimes to death, but the point of slavery was free labor, and you can't have that labor if you beat your slaves to death.  The point of the Holocaust was to kill as many Jews and enemies of the Third Reich as quickly as possible.  I can provide numbers who died as a direct result of the Holocaust.  I can even do so broken down by camp.  About the only analogy between the two that I can agree with is the slavers on the Middle Passage compared with the cattle cars holding the Jews.  The difference is, of course, that when the surviving slaves reached the New World, they were sold.  When the surviving Jews reached Auschwitz, they were nearly all gassed.  One is a disgusting method of free labor.  The other is extermination.

 

This is a simple point.  You can't apparently grasp it because you're the one who's emotionally tied up in this. 

 

Put all the pictures of whipped slaves and slave trading markets you like.  They pale in comparison to mass graves.  It is interesting, though, to note that it was American soldiers who put an end to both slavery and the Holocaust--you know, the same American soldiers you say were no better than Nazis.

 

I wonder how your fellow soldiers view your moral equivalence. 

PS Vulture you are an idiot. 

Well let's see in the last month I have had Holocaust Deniers, Noam Chomsky apologists, and moral relativists call me that.   You are in some great company Darth.  And all because I based my judgment on your words about how bad the US was.  As in the same as the Nazis.  It is a classic sign.

 

PS I also love how you repeatedly tied segregation and slavery together to try to make those two equivalent.

If black Africans and white Europeans are no better than the terrorists...which are no better than the Nazis...whose claims of doing things for the greater good were no better than the Americans claims...then how many strikes are we giving this Obama fellow?