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Subject: Shooting in Ft. Bragg
Nanheyangrouchuan    11/5/2009 5:43:11 PM
Had to be two guys of Arabic descent just to make things worse.
 
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Hamilcar       11/7/2009 2:13:04 PM




Over 100 rounds fired. How many magazines would that be?



 

I would be proud to be called an evangelical airman if there was such a thing.




 

This was an act of terror committed  by an islamic terrorist, condoned if not encouraged by his imman.




 

The mosque he attended should be closed.






 

Standard mags for the FiveseveN hold 20 rounds, because they are such small cartridges.  While I am certainly not trying to trivialize this tragedy or turn it into an armchair warrior debate like some sort of (in my mind typically silly) "9mm v. .45cal" debate, I really do suspect that it was probably a good thing this psycho terrorist didn't pick a more powerful weapon with more effective ammunition.  However, obviously, he was clearly able to mortally wound a great number of people and likely would have done so no matter what caliber his weapon was.

 

Neither am I. My point is that this killer was not a victim of job related stress or that he was insane at the time he committed his terrorist act. I see the selection of the handgun he chose as preplanned for this event. He wanted the smallest concealable semi-automatic pocket gun with the most bullets per magazine he could find, so that he could kill and wound the most people he could, before he was stopped.

I suggest that the evidence there, in his choice of weapon, is sufficient for premeditation, calculation, and calm deliberation. I asked the question about ammunition, to see if the terrorist also tried to obtain armor piercing ammunition (restricted) so that he could kill or wound body armor protected police who would try to stop him. The ammunition thus also goes to proof. The sheer quantity on hand for someone who should not have more than a couple of boxes at home of same for self-defense and user practice should also be evidence of his intent "to levy and make war on the United States" which is of course treason.
 
   
 
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Le Zookeeper    Was he acting alone?   11/7/2009 2:33:51 PM
Still unproven.
 
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CJH       11/7/2009 2:41:38 PM
I have heard hearsay to the effect that the shooter has been unofficially affiliated with the Obama transition.
 
Anyone heard anything similar?
 
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Hamilcar       11/7/2009 2:51:24 PM

I have heard hearsay to the effect that the shooter has been unofficially affiliated with the Obama transition.

 

Anyone heard anything similar?


Hamilcar       11/6/2009 2:51:34 PM
 
It is not hearsay. We have written proof that he participated. Whether he was selected, or assigned, I cannot say. 
 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:05:23 PM




I have heard hearsay to the effect that the shooter has been unofficially affiliated with the Obama transition.



 



Anyone heard anything similar?






Hamilcar       11/6/2009 2:51:34 PM





 

It is not hearsay. We have written proof that he participated. Whether he was selected, or assigned, I cannot say. 




I need to be careful. The disinformation types on the left will not hesitate to launch bogus rumors surrepticiously in order to make us doubt anything that's true.

I came across this Mass Murdering Muslim Major Wo...

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In 2008 The George Washington University Homeland Security Institute (HSPI) initiated a transition task force to help craft homeland security policies during Obama?s transition period. In May of 2009 HSPI finished its report titled, ?Thinking Anew-Security Priorities for the Next Administration.? One of the members of this Obama transition project was none other than the Muslim murderer Nidal Hassan.

Nidal is listed in Appendix C, Page 29 of the HSPI report as having served as a ?Task Force Event Participant,? in his position with the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine. (download .pdf of report) We should caution, though, that Hasan did not work for Obama. But he was a part of the University?s efforts to advise Obama.

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CJH       11/7/2009 3:17:50 PM

But then there is this -

Foreign Policy blog: Fort Hood...

 
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How was Hasan "affiliated"? Cilluffo notes that G.W. lists everyone who RSVPs to Institute events in the meeting booklets (common practice in D.C. think tanks). Hasan was just a member of the public who attended a HSPI event. He never had any affiliation at all. 
 
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Le Zookeeper    Well folks there is no need to malign Obama here   11/7/2009 3:22:20 PM
Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what. I mean he was the top recent domestic terrorist. No need to drag Republicans with him. But one thing is of interest here, most of these mass murderers seem to be Religious, no secular mass murderes that I know off. Hmmm.
 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:30:28 PM
Oh well, I'll go ahead and hyperlink the .pdf report



PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTI TRANSITION TASK FORCE

page 29 => APPENDIX C, Task Force Event Participants*

page 32 => Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:41:37 PM

Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what. I mean he was the top recent domestic terrorist. No need to drag Republicans with him. But one thing is of interest here, most of these mass murderers seem to be Religious, no secular mass murderes that I know off. Hmmm.
 
McVeigh's reported final hours included his  leaving a statement in the form of a poem titled - "Invictus"....
 
That poem is about as anti-Christian a declaration as there can be. To a Christian, only God is that Master or captain. McVeigh was brazenly denying God with that statement.
 
What you say is very definitely not true about McVeigh being a Christian.
 
Why do you and others on this site continue to make wildly untruthful statements about Christianity?
 
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Zhang Fei       11/7/2009 3:59:50 PM
Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what.
 
Christians are 90% of this country's population. Republicans, like Democrats, range from about 30 to 60%. And yet, in the last 500 years of this country's history, the combined total body count of religiously-motivated terrorist attacks does not come close to 3000 dead.
 
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