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Subject: Shooting in Ft. Bragg
Nanheyangrouchuan    11/5/2009 5:43:11 PM
Had to be two guys of Arabic descent just to make things worse.
 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:17:50 PM

But then there is this -

Foreign Policy blog: Fort Hood misinformation

 
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How was Hasan "affiliated"? Cilluffo notes that G.W. lists everyone who RSVPs to Institute events in the meeting booklets (common practice in D.C. think tanks). Hasan was just a member of the public who attended a HSPI event. He never had any affiliation at all. 
 
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Le Zookeeper    Well folks there is no need to malign Obama here   11/7/2009 3:22:20 PM
Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what. I mean he was the top recent domestic terrorist. No need to drag Republicans with him. But one thing is of interest here, most of these mass murderers seem to be Religious, no secular mass murderes that I know off. Hmmm.
 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:30:28 PM
Oh well, I'll go ahead and hyperlink the .pdf report



PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTI TRANSITION TASK FORCE

page 29 => APPENDIX C, Task Force Event Participants*

page 32 => Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

 
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CJH       11/7/2009 3:41:37 PM

Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what. I mean he was the top recent domestic terrorist. No need to drag Republicans with him. But one thing is of interest here, most of these mass murderers seem to be Religious, no secular mass murderes that I know off. Hmmm.
 
McVeigh's reported final hours included his  leaving a statement in the form of a poem titled - "Invictus".
 
That poem is about as anti-Christian a declaration as there can be. To a Christian, only God is that Master or captain. McVeigh was brazenly denying God with that statement.
 
What you say is very definitely not true about McVeigh being a Christian.
 
Why do you and others on this site continue to make wildly untruthful statements about Christianity?
 
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Zhang Fei       11/7/2009 3:59:50 PM
Timothy McVeigh a Christian was very very Republican in his views- so what.
 
Christians are 90% of this country's population. Republicans, like Democrats, range from about 30 to 60%. And yet, in the last 500 years of this country's history, the combined total body count of religiously-motivated terrorist attacks does not come close to 3000 dead.
 
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eldnah       11/7/2009 4:34:59 PM
All right......Now we got it. Maj. Nidal has Secondary or was it Tertiary Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.  He was depraved because he was diseased. Allahu Akbar! I am sure they'll create the appropriate listing in the DSM-IV by this evening.
 
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swhitebull    Mosque FOUND - and it Ties to 9/11   11/7/2009 7:49:21 PM

























The police officer is reported to have lost his/her life.



 



Is


this a terrorist conspiracy, or a random act of terrorism?



 



I expect it makes no


difference. Officially, there will be condolences for the families of innocent


victims, praise for the excellent response of police and rescuers, and


admonitions not to condemn the culture and religion responsible for this.



 




How horrific for a member of our volunteer military to serve


multiple tours in Iraq


or Afghanistan


to come home and be murdered by a muslim on a military base our military members are not


allowed to carry a self protection weapon on?




 




Find the mosque.



And arrest the clerics, therein.


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swhitebull -  but nothing to see here, is there?
 
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Zhang Fei       11/7/2009 10:19:30 PM
In the wake of the Fort Hood shootings, for the weekend, Ogabe's going to ... Camp David:
Dan Riehl checks the President's schedule and learns that Obama's not going to Fort Hood, but rather to Camp David for the weekend. In an update, Dan notes that his predecessor is more sensitive to the situation.

Fox Reports GWB and Laura spent a few hours at Fort Hood, no photo ops. Now that's a CIC.

Are you kidding me? Camp frickin' David? What, does he have a tee time close by? For heaven's sakes, he's the CIC. And he's taking the weekend off? This guy simply doesn't care. Unbelievable via Fox.

11:25AM THE PRESIDENT addresses the House Democratic Caucus - Cannon House Office Building

2:30PM THE PRESIDENT makes a statement to the press on Health Care - Rose Garden

2:45PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart The White House en route Camp David - South Lawn

That Dancing with the Indians conference must have really worn the poor guy out so much he can't spare time to comfort the survivors of the jihadi Major's massacre.

Update: Obama now plans to visit Ft. Hood Tuesday for the memorila service. We're glad he could squeeze it in sometime this week, just to show how much he cares.
 
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Zhang Fei       11/7/2009 10:49:02 PM
Shooter attended Virginia mosque in 2001 at the same time as two 9/11 terrorists, when it was run by a terror-supporting American-born imam (now in Yemen):
Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.
 
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
 
Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen"

 
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Hamilcar    I expected it.   11/7/2009 11:54:57 PM



















































The police officer is reported to have lost his/her life.







 







Is





this a terrorist conspiracy, or a random act of terrorism?







 







I expect it makes no





difference. Officially, there will be condolences for the families of innocent





victims, praise for the excellent response of police and rescuers, and





admonitions not to condemn the culture and religion responsible for this.







 








How horrific for a member of our volunteer military to serve





multiple tours in Iraq





or Afghanistan





to come home and be murdered by a muslim on a military base our military members are not





allowed to carry a self protection weapon on?








 








Find the mosque.







And arrest the clerics, therein.






link target="_blank">link />

 

swhitebull -  but nothing to see here, is there?


He wasn't an original thinker from what I was able to dig up that he published. Somebody had to pour that garbage in him.
 
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PlatypusMaximus       11/8/2009 9:20:55 AM

All right......Now we got it. Maj. Nidal has Secondary or was it Tertiary Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.  He was depraved because he was diseased. Allahu Akbar! I am sure they'll create the appropriate listing in the DSM-IV by this evening.

Imagine had he actually served in Iraq/A-stan.
Janet Napolitano might have identified him as a threat and kept him from taking 50 people down.
 
This one slipped through the cracks. I suggest that these terrorists aren't going to cut the sleeves off of a plaid flannel shirt for us, and we need to find another way to somehow identify them.
 
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PlatypusMaximus       11/8/2009 12:19:24 PM
A lot of deep soul searching being done by the parrot press corps today.
 
They're taking a hard look at life in the military and what could drive a soldier to frag his brothers.

Apparently the massacring Major was shouting god is great in arabic while he was murdering human beings, so the media is trying to figure out what it is in the lives of men that drives them to violence, in spite of their peaceful religion.
 
Should we deploy Muslim soldiers to Muslim countries?
Should a Muslim have to put up with harassment over his religion?
 
That's what's wrong with our world as of this afternoon, and there's an entire army of journalistic soldiers fighting for my freedom...it must be my deep sense of appreciation that's keeping me from having any appetite for lunch.

 
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appleciderus       11/8/2009 5:31:12 PM
This guy did not slip through a crack, political correctness opened the door for him. His remarks and behavior indicated clearly that he was at the least a potential bad fit for his position. The mosque he attended has a history, but the FBI is not allowed to investigate before hand. Now, the conversation here has degenerated to minutia, Napolitano is assuring arabs she will work hard to prevent a backlash, the CIC plays golf, and the country waits for the next act of terror instead of rooting it out. How marvelous to view yourself as morally superior while causing the death of innocents. How liberal/democratic.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       11/8/2009 7:02:08 PM
We can certainly count the millions of Aztecs, Inca and North American tribes slaughtered by the Spanish and the "Manifest Destiny", in the name of Christianity. 
 
And how many muslims currently serve in the US military in good standing?  We seem to be doing fairly well training Iraqis to fight other muslims as well.
 
But many of the posters here would paint a templar flag on the uniforms of our military and go forth in the name of holy war, slaughtering those who won't convert and paving the way for consumer corporations to plant their flags and enslave the surivors and new evangelical converts.
 
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warpig       11/8/2009 8:43:02 PM

We can certainly count the millions of Aztecs, Inca and North American tribes slaughtered by the Spanish and the "Manifest Destiny", in the name of Christianity. 

And how many muslims currently serve in the US military in good standing?  We seem to be doing fairly well training Iraqis to fight other muslims as well.

But many of the posters here would paint a templar flag on the uniforms of our military and go forth in the name of holy war, slaughtering those who won't convert and paving the way for consumer corporations to plant their flags and enslave the surivors and new evangelical converts.

 

SYSOPS ought to slap you for that slander.  Name two posters here who "would paint a templar flag on the uniforms of our military and go forth in the name of holy war, slaughtering those who won't convert and paving the way for consumer corporations to plant their flags and enslave the surivors and new evangelical converts."  In order to avoid being seen as merely in need of your medications, try to substantiate your claim with some evidence, like a post or two.  Otherwise, you ought to apologize, or at the least just shut up.
 
 
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