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Subject: Shooting in Ft. Bragg
Nanheyangrouchuan    11/5/2009 5:43:11 PM
Had to be two guys of Arabic descent just to make things worse.
 
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buzzard       11/6/2009 9:47:08 AM
In case anyone hasn't heard of it The complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran bu Robert Spencer is a pretty good read.
 
He has some details on this business on his web site:
h--p://www.jihadwatch.org/

 
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eldnah       11/6/2009 10:34:02 AM
If Major Hasan is convicted of murder would Holder as Atty Gen and Obama as POTUS sign a death sentance?? Even though Hasan lived off base there is no way that the state of Texas could get juristdiction as everything happened on base.
 
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reefdiver       11/6/2009 10:34:41 AM


There is a Saudi propaganda campaign underway in "religious schools" they fund world wide. We saw the first fruits of their campaign in Pakistan two decades ago, and today I suspect we see the first seeds of their efforts in the United States.
 
 
Wahhabi Islam is an ideology. To the extent that its practitioners and believers try to promote violence, racism, and intolerance, they need to be put down just like any Nazi should be. When you have an organized effort as I just gave you information to show exists, its not Krystalnacht to arrest the foreign agents of an enemy power that seeks to commit acts of espionage and promote domestic sedition inside the United States.        
So.... arrest the clerics and deal with them.  

I find it fascinating that the US allows a foreign government (Saudi's) to spend billions to establish a huge chain of Mosques and Islamic education centers within the US. Its basically a foreign government religious propaganda entity spread throughout the US. Imagine if the US Government (not the Catholic church) tried to spend money to build Catholic schools in Saudi Arabia. Of course its ridiculous to even contemplate - you can't even bring Bibles into Saudi. But imagine the US government trying to do this even anywhere in Europe.  So I ask why should a foreign government be allowed to establish and fund religious institutions in this country? (I don't believe the US actually funds religious institutions overseas - other than for emergency aid.)

 
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smitty237       11/6/2009 12:02:26 PM
The Administration and its media lackeys will do everything they can to make this anything other than a terrorist act inspired by Islamic ideology.  This forty year old, medically trained, Army officer will be portrayed as a nut job, and already we are seeing reports that he was picked on by fellow soldiers.  If anything this incident will be proof to some that the military needs to introduce more stringent cultural diversity programs and crack down on soldiers that bully their Muslim counterparts.  Of course the next step will be tighter gun control, but that's a given.............
 
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Le Zookeeper    Whack job obviously   11/6/2009 1:24:00 PM
Report said he was irked about taunts against his religion since 9/11. I actually believe that, but if the guy was going to crack so bad he must have left some clues I guess nobody picked up on them. I think he talked to his convenience store clerk last week about not wanting to goto Iraq and foght "fellow Moslems" the clerk replied that its just the bad ones we want to nail. That is a strange comment as that express the concept of Umma the universal Moslem brotherhood. He did say other things and blog about suicide bombings. Well its a strange world when now gun control will be standard in some military zones. And oh taunt control can be expected. Just sad.
 
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Le Zookeeper    Just a note   11/6/2009 1:27:18 PM
CAIR did condemn it strongly and emphatically. And does anyone have status on injured, especially Major Hasan's neutralizer.
 
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Hamilcar       11/6/2009 2:51:34 PM
 
 
 
 
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Motives For Military Post Shooting Remain Unclear

Shootings At Fort Hood

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November 6, 2009

One day after 13 people died and 30 were wounded in a mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, investigators on Friday sought to find a motive for why they think an Army psychiatrist carried out the assault.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, allegedly opened fire Thursday afternoon at the post's Soldier Readiness Center, where troops deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan receive last-minute medical checkups.

The gunman shouted "Allahu akbar!" before opening fire, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the post commander, told NBC's Today show Friday. The comment is Arabic for "God is great!"

Military investigators are trying Friday to determine the motive behind the mass shooting, the deadliest ever at a military facility in the United States. Hasan remained hospitalized, unconscious and on a ventilator Friday; in the chaotic hours after the shooting, the military initially said he had been killed.

"He's stable in one of our civilian hospitals," Col. Steven Braverman, a post spokesman, said at a Friday morning news conference.

Cone told reporters Thursday that the suspect, armed with at least two handguns, one a semiautomatic, began the rampage around 1:30 p.m. local time.

Hasan was later shot four times by civilian police Sgt. Kimberly Munley, Cone said. Munley was in stable condition after being shot and wounded in the melee. Cone credited Munley with "an amazing and aggressive performance."

In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood first thought one of the people shot and killed was the assailant, a mistake that delayed the identification of Hasan as a suspect.

"In the heat of the incident, there was a lot of confusion," Col. John Rossi explained at Fort Hood. "It was just a mistake."

Authorities said they immediately took three other U.S. soldiers into custody on suspicion that they were involved in the shooting but released them within hours of the shooting.

Initially, 12 people were reported dead, but officials said early Friday that a 13th person had died overnight. Officials said 27 people remained hospitalized.

Rossi said "approximately half" of the victims required surger

 
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Zhang Fei       11/6/2009 4:22:56 PM
I think he talked to his convenience store clerk last week about not wanting to goto Iraq and foght "fellow Moslems"
 
The guy's a shrink, isn't he? How is counseling wounded troops "fighting fellow Muslims"?
 
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Le Zookeeper    he was    11/6/2009 4:28:03 PM

I think he talked to his convenience store clerk last week about not wanting to goto Iraq and foght "fellow Moslems"

 

The guy's a shrink, isn't he? How is counseling wounded troops "fighting fellow Muslims"?



counseling for substance abuse, and had an F anyways. in job performance. I think he even requested discharge from the service- well obviously somebody should have expelled him earlier. Oddball event. Very sad.
 
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Zhang Fei       11/6/2009 6:25:18 PM
Ralph Peters blames political correctness... in the military:

Hasan isn?t the sole guilty party. The US Army?s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it?s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor. . . .

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don?t roll in this maggot?s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There?s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who?ve been assigned to his care? And he?s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I?m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

 
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