Nan, I admit my subscription to Evil Conservative Monthly has lapsed recently, but I'm trying to think of conservatives who do any of that.

 

If it had only been conservatives who blocked Prop 8 in California, it would've passed easily.  It was rejected.  Hmm.  Could there be liberals who are against gay marriage?  Naw.  Liberals are Lawful Good, whereas conservatives are Lawful Evil.  (Libertarians are Chaotic Evil.)  Why are there gay conservatives? 

Remember the halcyon days when the Republicans controlled Congress and the White House?  Gay marriage was banned completely then, wasn't it?  The Constitutional amendment was passed, right?  Oh wait...it wasn't.  Amazingly, despite eight years of Bush wiping his butt with the Constitution, gays were not burned as heretics nor were they thrown into reeducation camps. 

I wonder whether Nan thinks people should be allowed to marry a cow, watching pornography broadcast via air on prime time, and listen to white supremacist heavy metal on FM radio.

 

I just realized that Nanhe and FJV are the BW and FS of American political threads:  They seem to find any excuse to try to insert some crap about "social conservatism" in the case of Nanhe, and "libertarianism and free markets" (by which I think he means the conservative *and* libertarian emphasis on personal responsibility) in the case of FJV.

 

As usual, everything buzzard and yelli said above is right on target, especially about both of them repeatedly demonstrating their cluelessness regarding American politics and the American Right.

 

 

Right now, self-proclaimed conservatives constitute 40% of voters, the largest idealogical demographic in the country.  Compare this to the liberals that dominate the House, Senate, and White House, who at 21% make up the smallest idealogical demographic.

 

 

This survey was conducted by Gallup and covered 40,000 interviews--a gold-standard for crediblity.

 

BO understood this and appealed to the right when he ran for president, promising a tax cut and reduced waste and deficits.

 

If a candidate can deliver those 40% who call themselves conservative and only half of the 35% who call themselves moderates, you have a landslide with 57% of the vote.  So how does a liberal get elected? Be liberal in the primary to get your core, then pretend to be a conservative in the general elections (which was what BO did).

 

But the problem with voting for a faux conservative is that people do remember what you did when the election was done. So when John McCain appealed for conservative voters, they recalled all the times he crossed party lines to vote for "moderate" legislation.  Natually, a number of those voters were reluctant to vote for him.

 

So when BO stands for re-election, he'll be facing voters that will remember he promised to eliminate earmarks and cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

 

well, the Constitution doesn't cover animals, so beastiality is out.  But a little prime time porn would take the edge off the day and white supremacist heavy metal on a FM radio channel would be covered by the first amendment.

 

And I fully agree that Yelli and FJV don't know dick about US politics outside the confines of their ultra right wing compound.

 

 

 

The reason that man can't marry a cow is that man can't make a contract with a cow. The Constitution doesn't mention anything about marriage. At that time, they thought marriage is so trivial that it can't be anything but a man and a woman. The Constitution also doesn't mention about animal rights and cruelty against animal. Should we continue on this subject? You got the result right, but the reason is all wrong.

 

Blatant, detestable display of sexuality is called obscenity. It is both agitative and inappropriate. You'd better know how to explain to your children why a woman is hog tied while doubly penetrated during prime time TV.

 

I guess you are so American that you don't know what happened in Rwanda 15 years ago. 

 

"Despite the national media attention on Northern New York right now, we should all remember that the 23rd Congressional District has no great significance. And neither did Gettysburg. It's just the place where the great armies met."