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Subject: How to cut and run from Afghanistan?
YelliChink    10/27/2009 5:56:00 PM
Today's news. This is bad, if not worse. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33489374/ns/world_news-washington_post/ Although cut-and-run is to lose, it might not be as bad if the situation is led to worsen itself. It's better to have a cut-and-run strategy than being forced to leave. The strategy should involve: 1. How to maintain influence after disengagement and retreat. 2. How not to lose too much face. 3. How not to allow Afghanistan fall into chaos. I with my very limited knowledge and brain power have no idea how to achieve all of the above. But I do know one thing: if the US is going to leave one way or another, it's better to leave now.
 
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FJV    Maybe it was rigged from the start   10/30/2009 1:40:30 PM
Maybe someone "decided" it was never meant to be won in the first place or maybe it is stupidity. The brother of Karzai, you know the heroin trader, has appeared on a pay list of the CIA. And now we suddenly have to stop herion trade as part of our strategy. Talk about financing your own problems.

We are expected to fight the drugs trade in Aghanistan, when the president of Afgahnistan, the president of neighbouring Pakistan, the Mullahs of Iran are all involved in that trade.
 
On top of that our Western government are filled of coke snorters. I've seen numbers of Europarliament and the German Bundestag test showing traces of drugs in as much as 80% of the toilets. Nobody tested the toilets in the US senate, but I would not be suprised to see similar results.
 
With the people "leading" the fight against drugs involved in the trade or their consumption, I don't regard our chances of winning highly. Making that fight against drugs part of the fight in Afghanistan......
 
 
 
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YelliChink       10/30/2009 1:49:03 PM

On top of that our Western government are filled of coke snorters. I've seen numbers of Europarliament and the German Bundestag test showing traces of drugs in as much as 80% of the toilets. Nobody tested the toilets in the US senate, but I would not be suprised to see similar results.


You can say that's open secret on the Capitol Hill. There needs to be a law barring drug addicts from running office.
 
And you also have to include certain emotion-controlling drugs such as Prozac.
 
Yes, the US seems to be run by a bunch of Red Diaper Doper Babies.
 
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sentinel28a       10/30/2009 3:34:19 PM
I don't know.  I can think of several politicians in Washington who are in desperate need of Prozac.  I can think of a few who are in desperate need of arsenic too, actually.  (I'd be interested in seeing some evidence of widespread cocaine use in the EU, FJV--not because I doubt that it's true, especially given the EU politicians' actions as of late.)
 
The reason why we have to go after heroin in Afghanistan is because the Taliban uses heroin to finance their operations.  It's no different than putting the squeeze on a Mafia bag man if you want to get the people in charge.
 
 
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