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Subject: Can't blame Bush but they'll try
eldnah    10/25/2009 6:26:48 AM
The first H1N1 cases were reported in Mexico in March of this year and shortly there after Reports of the potential for a world wide pandemic were widely broadcasted yet adequate amounts of the vaccine are still not available and people are dying of the flu. We are seeing the incompetance of the Government in providing basic public health support yet it wants to take over the entire health care system.
 
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Wicked Chinchilla       10/27/2009 1:45:29 PM




Oh, and one more thing.  If the vaccine is available to you, GET IT.  If you listen to any of this anti-vaxxer bullshit thats tossed around you are a complete idiot.  As someone who has worked on vaccines, studied vaccines, knows immunology, and whose very life DEPENDS ON FRACKING VACCINES, they work extremely well, they are cheap, and they are devoid of any serious side effects the vast extreme majority of the time. 



 



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The only reason I have stopped with yearly vaccines is that my immune system seemed to become dependent on them.  I had to take the vaccine in the military and I did it for the first two years of undergrad school. I stopped one year and was floored for about a week.  Since then, I get a mildly unpleasant bug but I can still get around and don't feel like I was hit by a car.


 

That is actually a legitimate reason not to get a vaccine.  Everyones immune system is different and I understand that.  Now if you had said you were worried about Thimerosol I would have been sorely tempted to shoot you :).
 
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sentinel28a       10/27/2009 2:16:18 PM
Paying lab techs lousy wages...excuse me while I laugh my ass off.  They make a hell of a lot more money than I do as a teacher.
 
I'm also trying to remember where in the Constitution it says "You must work for a corporation who treats you like [s--t], rather than quit and find a corporation that treats you well."
 
 
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Wicked Chinchilla       10/28/2009 10:16:10 AM
Most Lab TECHS in the states make absolute dick.  You max out at around mid 30ish.  The average is under 30k.  If you want to make money, don't be a tech.  Some make more, but they are senior techs who have been around a while or they have some sort of rare speciality or unique skill.  That could be BSL-4 biocontainment experience, EM experience/knowledge, some of the more exotic or rare diseases or bugs, or have a really, really good reputation.
 
I would highly doubt the avg. tech makes more than the avg. teacher and guarantee you techs dont make a lot more than teachers. 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/28/2009 11:27:36 AM
Lab techs in developing countries don't do that well either.  Working in clean, air conditioned facilities is quite far leap ahead of most of their contemporaries, but the pay still sucks and QC is notoriously bad, rejected product costs their employer money and there are lots of people waiting to take their jobs who won't have so many quality concerns.
 
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sentinel28a       10/29/2009 3:01:55 PM
I stand corrected, then.  Still not a reason to throw out the baby with the bath water.
 
 
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Jimme    What i find troubling   10/30/2009 10:39:43 PM
With all this focus on the much hyped H1N1 flu, i find it troubling to hear that there are severe shortages of the regular flu vaccines. Mind you despite all the hubbub of the swine flu, its deaths are in the thousands, mean while the normal flue kills MILLIONS every year. I really hope that w don't get a huge spike in the normal flu deaths due to these shortages while all te companies focus on producing H1N1 vaccines.
 
Its too bad that i cannot take either of the vaccines and never have in my life since I am allergic to raw eggs. Some how eggs are used in the creation of the vaccine. Good thing is I never really get sick for longer then a day or two. 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/31/2009 1:30:04 PM

I stand corrected, then.  Still not a reason to throw out the baby with the bath water.

 


Yes it is, burn it all and start over.
 
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eldnah       10/31/2009 6:02:43 PM
The GITMO prisoners will get the H1N1 vaccine before American children and it's not to protect the guards who have received the vaccine already. H1N1 is rife in my grandson's Massachusetts middle and high schools with dozens hospitalized. One of my grandsons is awaiting the return of his blood test but he feels a lot better having taking tamiflu within 24 hrs of the onset of symptoms. Yes I cheated, as a physician I stock piled the drug for my family, perhaps the Obama PC police will indict me or lift my liscense for non collective action. Unfortunately tamiflu is becoming hard to get in their area, more is coming but to be effective it appears the antiviral should be taken within 48 hrs of the onset of symptoms. Oh BTW the government has been diverting 10% of our supply to third world countries, gratis, as part of Obama's foreign policy.
 
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