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Subject: Honor attack/killing log
Zhang Fei    10/21/2009 6:29:58 PM
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Arizona police are looking for a man who they allege ran down his daughter and her friend because he believed his daughter had become "too Westernized."

Peoria, Arizona, police said Wednesday that Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48, struck his 20-year-old daughter, Noor Faleh Almaleki, and her friend Amal Edan Khalaf with a vehicle he was driving in a parking lot Tuesday afternoon.
 
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norden       10/21/2009 6:39:59 PM
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There are a lot and more unreported...
 
anyway had to give Robert Spencer a bump
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/21/2009 8:37:54 PM
There was an Ethiopian father (and Ethiopians are mostly ultra-orthodox christians) who botched vaginal surgery on his 13 year old daughter and is now doing hard time, 13 years with possibility for parole.
 
Hopefully this guy is made an example of by the local judge .  But those are the pangs of immigration to this country. For those of us who are of european descent, there were massive riots between immigrant nationalities, every city and county was segregated by which immigrant group had the majority.  Very balkanized.  As long as law enforcement brings the pain and teaches these newcomers a lesson, all will iron itself out.
 
Also, moves like these split the Americanized kids from their immigrant, traditional parents.  Especially when they start dating "unacceptable" people from other religions and ethnic groups.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/21/2009 8:38:09 PM
There was an Ethiopian father (and Ethiopians are mostly ultra-orthodox christians) who botched vaginal surgery on his 13 year old daughter and is now doing hard time, 13 years with possibility for parole.
 
Hopefully this guy is made an example of by the local judge .  But those are the pangs of immigration to this country. For those of us who are of european descent, there were massive riots between immigrant nationalities, every city and county was segregated by which immigrant group had the majority.  Very balkanized.  As long as law enforcement brings the pain and teaches these newcomers a lesson, all will iron itself out.
 
Also, moves like these split the Americanized kids from their immigrant, traditional parents.  Especially when they start dating "unacceptable" people from other religions and ethnic groups.
 
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smitty237       10/22/2009 1:01:32 AM

There was an Ethiopian father (and Ethiopians are mostly ultra-orthodox christians) who botched vaginal surgery on his 13 year old daughter and is now doing hard time, 13 years with possibility for parole.

 

Hopefully this guy is made an example of by the local judge .  But those are the pangs of immigration to this country. For those of us who are of european descent, there were massive riots between immigrant nationalities, every city and county was segregated by which immigrant group had the majority.  Very balkanized.  As long as law enforcement brings the pain and teaches these newcomers a lesson, all will iron itself out.


 

Also, moves like these split the Americanized kids from their immigrant, traditional parents.  Especially when they start dating "unacceptable" people from other religions and ethnic groups.



So was the Ethiopian father an Orthodox Christian?  From what I understand there are also a lot of Muslims in Ethiopia as well, so couldn't he have also been Muslim?  What was the point of trying to imply that he was a Christian?
 
Of course immigrants in this country have traditionally had a rough go of things and have experienced violence and segregation, but once those groups started to assimilate into general American society the stigma of being foreign started to subside.  By the second generation most immigrants were thoroughly Americanized, and by the third generation most of their children didn't even speak the language of the "Old Country."
 
I believe that there is a distinct difference between the immigrants that came to this country in the early 1900's and the Middle Eastern immigrants that have arrived here within the last few decades.  A lot of Muslim immigrants come to this country but then expect us to conform to their culture.  They do not feel that they should be subject to US laws and customs the same way everyone else is, and some even demand that we begin applying Muslim Sharia Law to Muslims in America.  In most Muslim countries "honor killings" are not officially condoned by the government, but they are often lightly punished.....if they are punished at all.  That is the kind of thing that they want to allow here.  There is a big difference between expressing disapproval because your child is dating someone from a different culture versus running over the child with the family car or setting them on fire for the same reason. 

 
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Zhang Fei       11/2/2009 7:08:21 PM
Blast from the past:
Zein Isa (died February 17, 1997) was a Palestinian immigrant living in St. Louis, who was responsible for the honor killing of his 16-year old daughter Palestina (also known as Tina) in 1989. After learning that Palestina had taken a part-time job without her parents' permission, and dated an African American boyfriend, wife Maria held down Palestina, who was then repeatedly stabbed by Zein. Zein Isa was a member of the Abu Nidal Organization, which at the time he murdered his daughter was plotting to bomb the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C.. A crucial factor in his trial was that the FBI had Zein under surveillance in connection with his suspected militant activities, and had recorded Palestina's murder on an audio cassette. This was especially important in confirming that Maria was an active participant in the murder, and that Zein's claim of self-defense was unwarranted. On December 20, 1991[1] both Zein and Maria Isa were convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to death. On April 1, 1993 Zein Isa was indicted by the FBI in connection with his Abu Nidal Organization activities, but the charges were dropped because he was already on Death Row. Zein Isa died of diabetes on February 17, 1997. Maria's death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment without parole.
 
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YelliChink       11/17/2009 10:23:42 AM
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228561/Woman-dies-hours-mutilated-street-hand-cut-off.html
 
Not sure about the religion of parties involved.
 
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