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Subject: A view of Western Economies from a Value Investor
Hugo    10/21/2009 8:04:42 AM
Transcript for David Einhorn?s Speech at Value Investing Congress (October 19, 2009) One of the nice aspects of trying to solve investment puzzles is recognizing that even though I am not always going to be right, I don?t have to be. Decent portfolio management allows for some bad luck and some bad decisions. When something does go wrong, I like to think about the bad decisions and learn from them so that hopefully I don?t repeat the same mistakes. This leaves me plenty of room to make fresh mistakes going forward. I?d like to start today by reviewing a bad decision I made and share with you what I?ve learned from that error and how I am attempting to apply the lessons to improve our funds? prospects. At the May 2005 Ira Sohn Investment Research Conference in New York, I recommended MDC Holdings, a homebuilder, at $67 per share. Two months later MDC reached $89 a share, a nice quick return if you timed your sale perfectly. Then the stock collapsed with the rest of the sector. Some of my MDC analysis was correct: it was less risky than its peers and would hold-up better in a down cycle because it had less leverage and held less land. But this just meant that almost half a decade later, anyone who listened to me would have lost about forty percent of his investment, instead of the seventy percent that the homebuilding sector lost. I want to revisit this because the loss was not bad luck; it was bad analysis. I down played the importance of what was then an ongoing housing bubble. On the very same day, at the very same conference, a more experienced and wiser investor, Stanley Druckenmiller, explained in gory detail the big picture problem the country faced from a growing housing bubble fueled by a growing debt bubble. At the time, I wondered whether even if he were correct, would it be possible to convert such big picture macro-thinking into successful portfolio management? I thought this was particularly tricky since getting both the timing of big macro changes as well as the market?s recognition of them correct has proven at best a difficult proposition. Smart investors had been complaining about the housing bubble since at least 2001. I ignored Stan, rationalizing that even if he were right, there was no way to know when he would be right. This was an expensive error. The lesson that I have learned is that it isn?t reasonable to be agnostic about the big picture. For years I had believed that I didn?t need to take a view on the market or the economy because I considered myself to be a ?bottom up? investor. Having my eyes open to the big picture doesn?t mean abandoning stock picking, but it does mean managing the longshort exposure ratio more actively, worrying about what may be brewing in certain industries, and when appropriate, buying some just-in-case insurance for foreseeable macro risks even if they are hard to time. In a few minutes, I will tell you what Greenlight has done along these lines. But first, I?d like to explain what I see as the macro risks we face. To do that I need to digress into some political science. Please humor me since my mom and dad spent a lot of money so I could be a government major, the usefulness of which has not been apparent for some time. Winston Churchill said that, ?Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.? As I see it, there are two basic problems in how we have designed our government. The first is that officials favor policies with short-term impact over those in our long-term interest because they need to be popular while they are in office and they want to be reelected. In recent times, opinion tracking polls, the immediate reactions of focus groups, the 24/7 news cycle, the constant campaign, and the moment-to-moment obsession with the Dow Jones Industrial Average have magnified the political pressures to favor short-term solutions. Earlier this year, the political topic du jour was to debate whether the stimulus was working, before it had even been spent. Paul Volcker was an unusual public official because he was willing to make unpopular decisions in the early ?80s and was disliked at the time. History, though, judges him kindly for the era of prosperity that followed. Presently, Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner have become the quintessential short-term decision makers. They explicitly ?do whatever it takes? to ?solve one problem at a time? and deal with the unintended consequences later. It is too soon for history to evaluate their work, because there hasn?t been time for the unintended consequences of the ?do whatever it takes? decision-making to materialize. The second weakness in our government is ?concentrated benefit versus diffuse harm? also known as the problem of special interests. Decision makers help small groups who care about narrow issues and whose ?special interests? invest substantial resources to be better heard through lobbying, pub
 
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Hugo    ..   10/21/2009 8:07:28 AM
...I think the above is a good summary of what is currently going wrong and why. 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/21/2009 5:56:23 PM
I like the parallel between what is going on in government (parties/philosophies are just hot air at this point) and how kids have been raised the past 10 years.
 
I was just watching a CNN show about 1 high school having 115 kids, supposedly after some mentoring program was dropped due to budget cuts, but not once was asked "where are the parents".
 
And while democracy has many faults, having psychotics and strongmen with mob connections as rulers or shadow rulers (NK and Russia) or a sociopathic group of old men ( the CCP) ruling the country with an iron fist and yet trying not to appear too fearful of the army that keeps them in power.

Not to mention the warlords who rule Africa and the Middle East.
 
The argument could almost be made for making the fed chairman an appointment similar to the Supreme Court, where impeachment is the only way to forceably remove someone and therefore make their decisions immune from political whim, 
but the wrong person would nearly rule the country by fiat.
 
I think the problem is the generation of rulers.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/21/2009 5:59:31 PM
And that includes our execs, who are cast from the same die.
 
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sentinel28a       10/21/2009 7:51:06 PM
Nan, there are times that you and I are in perfect agreement.  This is one of them.
 
We're raising the children and the grandchildren of the flower children.  Are we surprised what's happening now? We shouldn't be.
 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/21/2009 8:05:18 PM

Nan, there are times that you and I are in perfect agreement.  This is one of them.

 

We're raising the children and the grandchildren of the flower children.  Are we surprised what's happening now? We shouldn't be.

 


We are the children of the flower children.  Well, most of the "flower children" were never flower children, just people pretending to be social rebels as an excuse to get really f*d up and screw anything.
 

Despite many advances in medical care, 10 years or more of hard core abuse (much more than a joint in the backyard on saturday afternoon) has taken an irreversible toll on their bodies. And they try to cover up for it with their over 50 and over 60 marathons, sporting events, etc.  But some drugs like acid and I think PCP never really leave the body.  X doesn't either.
 
 
No, most of that generation were never real hippies, most copped the role, made it to college graduation and discovered money, and that money could buy really, really high quality drugs and power. And power is the most lovely drug of all.
 
My grandparents lament over their kids never knowing what it was like to truly not have and to have to work together and ignore differences for a common good.
 
The Founding Fathers saw it, the Reconstructionists saw it, the Depression/WW2 leaders saw it. 
 
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Hugo       10/22/2009 5:56:16 AM
The key breakthrough for the US would be to abandon the Federal Reserve System altogether and emerge instead with a free market for money (which would ultimately lead to a commodity backed currency system).  Any other "reform" is only in name.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/22/2009 11:28:43 AM

The key breakthrough for the US would be to abandon the Federal Reserve System altogether and emerge instead with a free market for money (which would ultimately lead to a commodity backed currency system).  Any other "reform" is only in name.

We still don't want the stew of state and bank printed currencies we had before the US Constitution was written. I think much of the world is looking at commodities backed currencies. The only problem is, which commodities?  Each commodity in the basket will give a nation or group of nations power in influencing the exchange rates.
 
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Hugo    Nan   10/23/2009 8:05:41 AM



The key breakthrough for the US would be to abandon the Federal Reserve System altogether and emerge instead with a free market for money (which would ultimately lead to a commodity backed currency system).  Any other "reform" is only in name.





We still don't want the stew of state and bank printed currencies we had before the US Constitution was written. I think much of the world is looking at commodities backed currencies. The only problem is, which commodities?  Each commodity in the basket will give a nation or group of nations power in influencing the exchange rates.

The currencies used before (and also after) the US Constitution was written were commodity backed.  The US constitution only actually provides the government the power to determine weightings, denominations not to print money.  The answer to which commodities is to let the people (market) decide.  Usually that means gold and/or silver.  The actual quantities of gold and silver don't matter, the quantity of money is actually economically neutral in a free market for money in respect to overall wealth.  If other countries are also using commodities to back their then exchange rates are stable i.e. one silver dollar (backed by x grams of gold) is equal to two pounds (backed by 2x grams of gold).
 
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Vulture       10/27/2009 10:41:53 AM
Hugo - I too am in seldom agreement with Nan, which commodities?  Because no matter what the market picks , it will be leveraged by some government.  Or some oligarch billionaires,  Russia played gold, the Hunt Brothers (and countless others throughout recorded history) played silver.   And it hurt some countries' economies because their money supply fluctuated in value outside their control.
 
/Personally I want my dollars backed by anti-matter.  So I can use it as a weapon when it becomes worthless fiat!
 
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Hugo    Wicked   10/27/2009 12:14:56 PM

Hugo - I too am in seldom agreement with Nan, which commodities?  Because no matter what the market picks , it will be leveraged by some government.  Or some oligarch billionaires,  Russia played gold, the Hunt Brothers (and countless others throughout recorded history) played silver.   And it hurt some countries' economies because their money supply fluctuated in value outside their control.

 

/Personally I want my dollars backed by anti-matter.  So I can use it as a weapon when it becomes worthless fiat!

  The question as to what commodity backs currency can only be answered by the market.  The market might decide on gold, it might go for silver or both.  That decision isn't for any government to determine.  How is it going to be leveraged by government?  Commodities used as a means of exchange are stored in warehouses, probably operated by banks.  The Hunts and others were merely speculators who ended up with nothing.  The quantity of gold, silver, and any other commodity is of very little concern.  If the Russians say, closed all of their mines to restrict the quantity of money, then prices of goods and services rise in dollar terms (perhaps).  The rising value of gold will lead individuals to shift from savings to consumption, and other, non Russian, gold producers will ramp up production to reflect the greater buying power of their product.  This will act to counter the actions of the Russians. 
Gold, silver etc, cannot be compared to oil.  The first two commodities are used as a means of exchange, they have no value otherwise (except for some specialist uses like replacing US rappers' teeth).  If gold became so scarce that it ceased being convenient as a means for exchange, then the market would opt for silver.  If that ceased being convenient the market might choose bronze or something else entirely.  It doesn't matter.  The amount of a commodity backing exchange does not change the wealth of society.  More goods are not produced if more gold is found under the ground.  But taking away the government's monopoly to produce money will, as history has shown, lead to the market adopting a commodity of exchange (rather than fiat money which we suffer today).  That is the key issue of importance, taking away the government's monopoly on money production which is actually nothing more than counterfeiting. 
 
Governments cannot counterfeit gold or silver - and thus they cannot reduce the value of your savings, they cannot warp the risk / reward dynamic that drives investment (production) decisions.  Governments cannot print money and pass it onto their friends at GoldmanSachs, Citigroup and others whose entire business model, entire existence is existentially dependent upon cheap money and taxpayer subsidized risk.  They cannot, through counterfeit, destroy the savings of pensioners and turn the average American into a real estate or stock market speculator.  Ask yourself why you yourself are not allowed to print Greenbacks in your garage whilst your government is allowed to print them at rapid pace.
 
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