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Subject: Mark Steyn: Limbaugh bad, Mao good
CJH    10/18/2009 5:33:25 PM
Mark Steyn: Limbaugh bad, Mao good

"So if I understand correctly:

Rush Limbaugh is so "divisive" that to get him fired Leftie agitators have to invent racist sound bites to put in his mouth.

But the White House communications director is so undivisive that she can be invited along to recommend Chairman Mao as a role model for America's young."
 
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Panther       10/18/2009 6:24:49 PM
Turns out McCarthy was right after all!
 
May God have mercy on all of us!
 
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sentinel28a       10/18/2009 8:32:23 PM
Nah, McCarthy was still a dick.  But even he would probably take one look at Dunn and go "Damn, lady.  Don't the Commies teach you to be subtle?"
 
 
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reefdiver       10/19/2009 9:42:07 AM
Left out here was Mark Lloyd - the FCC 'Diversity' czar, caught on video commenting about how "in Venezuela Hugo Chavez has had and incredible democratic revolution..."
 
Of course Chavez hasn't killed millions, or even thousands - yet. He just first villifies any business he doesn't like, then takes them over (the latest being 'bourgeois' golf courses). Wait just a moment... demonize and then attempt to take over - that sounds a bit familar doesn't it?
 
Congress is even in on the act - Democrat Congressmen/women have recently visited Cuba and come back beaming and babbling on about how much they admire Fidel and Raul Castro.
 
But its not just Limbaugh being attacked. If you go to a TEA party to protest rising taxes and growing government you're a Domestic Terrorist. If you protest the government taking over 1/6 of the economy with a Health Care "Reform" bill you're a racist. So being a critic of Obama and his policies=bad,  loving murdering or dictator communists and Marxist doctrine=good - maybe even good enough to get you appointed by the Obama administration.  Its a crazy mixed up world.
 
 
 
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Panther    Rant alert coming on.....   10/19/2009 5:11:24 PM

Nah, McCarthy was still a dick.  But even he would probably take one look at Dunn and go "Damn, lady.  Don't the Commies teach you to be subtle?"

 


Sure, though i was only noting the defining irony, that moment in history as this can best represent, with the hopes that the succeeding generations of US citizens can slap themselves on their foreheads in wonderment and astonishment at what we could have possibly been thinking in electing the most Marxist administration in US history! (In which, my father appears to have been absolutely right, my generation seems more full of commies than any other in this country's history.) Of course, i am basing the former statement on presumptions and in respectful regards to what all other republics had faced before ours; Which is... that ancient invisible curse for a choice, that so called proverbial fork in the road.... which will we eventually choose.... death from within or death from without brought on by the much prophesied birth of the real US empire, the American Empire! The question must be asked, what will the final price be?
 
***sigh*** Anyways... Subtlety seems to be no longer needed in the face of a half way complacent electorate that had bought into this nonsense!
 
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kensohaski       10/19/2009 6:46:02 PM
Joe was indeed right....
 
Now the commies are in office
 
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sentinel28a       10/19/2009 8:12:13 PM
Given the deplorable lack of education in this country, I'm surprised we didn't end up electing the winner of the last Survivor or American Idol competition.
 
I must admit to something that brought a smile to my face today--a student asking why we weren't supporting the Iranians protesting against the mullahs.  This same student asked, "If Iran's threatening to touch off a nuclear arms race with the Gulf Kingdoms, you'd think we'd want a democratic revolution in Iran to stop that.  So why aren't we supporting them, professor?"
 
I could only shrug and say, "Good question."
 
 
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usajoe1       10/20/2009 5:25:01 AM
Joe was indeed right....
 
Now the commies are in office
 
Your wrong, the commies have been in the office since Woodrow Wilson. Back then it was the progressives, then came the new deal, the great society and the third way. Now they don't need to hide who they are, because socalism is gaining more support in this country, and the far left of the democratic party is just as red as any other socalist party in history.
 
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Jeff_F_F       10/20/2009 12:07:58 PM
American education is great!
 
And McCarthy's first name is Jenny, not Joe - what are you thinking. And what did she ever say about cominism...
 
;-) sorry couldn't resist...
 
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sentinel28a       10/20/2009 2:47:50 PM
Whoa, Joe.  Progressivism had some socialist ideas in it, but it was not Communism.  Marx was a reactionary against technology; Progressivism embraced it.  Marx loathed the idea of ordinary people in power; Progressivism was responsible for the initiative/referendum process and direct election of senators and judges.  It was also Progressives who got meat inspection set up and promoted conservationism--while there were some Progressives that were "fence off the land so no dirty human can get in" (Muir, to a lesser extent Pinchot), there were more who believed in preserving the land as a renewable resource (Roosevelt, Weyerhauser). 
 
Progressives did suffer from a "punish the rich" mentality and a mania for destroying corporations, whether or not they were bad or good--the definition of which they themselves could never settle on; Roosevelt and Taft were hell-bent on wrecking Northern Securities and Standard Oil, but TR was perfectly good with US Steel.  All that aside, early 20th Century Progressives were a world apart from the "progressives" of today.  Teddy Roosevelt would be sickened by the "peace at any price" mentality of so-called modern progressives. 
 
Calling TR a Communist invites him coming back from the grave, ripping your head off, and eating your brains while yelling what a bully meal it is, dee-lighted!
 
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Panther       10/20/2009 3:33:31 PM
The more i think about it with each passing day, the less annoyingly irritated i am and the more frightened i am becoming too have such a government official telling graduating students that their favorite philosopher is Mao and he should be imitated! Bullsh!t!!!!!!
 
This man Mao who led and brutally murdered millions of his own countrymen in the search of some commie utopia vs. Rush L. a commentator on the radio with his opinion.
 
It is a sign of the times that Anita Dunn has not been tarred, feathered and ran out of town yet for such a horrendously callous and yet such a blatantly indoctrinating comment to make too impressionable students with their careers still ahead of them! Will even one of them take her to heart and be the next US Mao, the murder of millions of Americans?
 
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Panther       10/20/2009 3:34:05 PM
The more i think about it with each passing day, the less annoyingly irritated i am and the more frightened i am becoming too have such a government official telling graduating students that their favorite philosopher is Mao and he should be imitated! Bullsh!t!!!!!!
 
This man Mao who led and brutally murdered millions of his own countrymen in the search of some commie utopia vs. Rush L. a commentator on the radio with his opinion.
 
It is a sign of the times that Anita Dunn has not been tarred, feathered and ran out of town yet for such a horrendously callous and yet such a blatantly indoctrinating comment to make too impressionable students with their careers still ahead of them! Will even one of them take her to heart and be the next US Mao, the murder of millions of Americans?
 
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Panther       10/20/2009 3:47:55 PM
The more i think about it with each passing day, the less annoyingly irritated i am and the more frightened i am becoming too have such a government official telling graduating students that their favorite philosopher is Mao and he should be imitated! Bullsh!t!!!!!!
 
This man Mao who led and brutally murdered millions of his own countrymen in the search of some commie utopia vs. Rush L. a commentator on the radio with his opinion.
 
It is a sign of the times that Anita Dunn has not been tarred, feathered and ran out of town yet for such a horrendously callous and yet such a blatantly indoctrinating comment to make too impressionable students with their careers still ahead of them! Will even one of them take her to heart and be the next US Mao, the murder of millions of Americans?
 
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Panther       10/20/2009 3:49:29 PM
D@mn it! I hate it when this happens.
 
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usajoe1    sentinel   10/20/2009 5:22:27 PM
Lets look at Wilson. This men had more people arrested and put to jail in a couple of years, than Mussolini had in all of the 1920's. In his last couple of years he violated more civil liberties than Mussolini in his first decade. He had a propaganda ministry, and went after the press with his goons. He was convinced that the state could create a better society, and hated most of the founding fathers, and the checks and balances of the constitution. This was also a men who loved power and said that by giving blacks the right to vote was "the foundation of every evil in this country" and "true leader uses the masses like tools." You can also look at the CPI, WBI, EA, APL, and Wilsons sedition act, to see what this men was really about. If that is not enough, why don't you pick up one of Wilsons favorite books, "The promise of American life" where Herbert Croly talks about the need for mobilizing society like an army, contempt for parliamentary democracy, and a need for a non-Marxist Socialism. This is the book where after reading it, Wilson said that he wished he was better able to get Croly's advice to his fellow countrymen.Wilson was as close to a socialist dictator as this country has had, until 2008.
 
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Mikko    Totally off-topic..   10/21/2009 8:14:57 AM
Sorry for off-topicing, there's this one question (well, a bunch of them but revolving around the same theme) I always wanted to ask you guys and figured this thread is as good as any political thread for it. Here it goes:
 
I am puzzled with the current terminology and divisions considering US conservatives and right-wingers. In my perspective, the classical stereotype of a right-wing conservative is this pro-war protectionist pro-gun xenophobe. Gays, jews, blacks, asians, roman catholics, left-wingers etc. are on the dislike-list of this stereotypical ultra -right wing white male. Is this stereotype a myth or does it belong in the past?

Yet what I find in this forum and elsewhere is a totally different breed of conservative right-wingers. Goodbye to dislike towards all abovementioned "minorities"; enter pro-Jew, pro-black, pro-asian attitudes. This stereotype I know not to be a myth since I talk with this kind of people here and respect fully their perspectives, whether I agree with them or not. Hell, as I understand, jews are most welcome in this category and crucial members of it, as are other minorities also. Attitudes that are sometimes quite close to sionism fits very poorly with the first stereotype.
 
Yet the anti-communist, pro-force, pro-gun and 'global warming is BS' -attitudes are there but the xenophobic features are not.
 
Now what's up with that? I'm totally guilty of letting myself be manipulated by Hollywood and the media - this strange division is not something I've experienced first hand. What happened to the cowboy-type with bullhorns in the beltbuckle and tons of racial prejudices under the hat? I know there are tons of terminology to describe this but I'd like to look beyond the buzzwords.
 
I know this pondering might seem strange to you but this is a phenomenon other non-Americans probably recognize too. 
 
Mikko
 
 
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