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Subject: Poland and Czech kicked in the nuts by the US
YelliChink    9/17/2009 10:33:06 AM
edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/17/missile.defense.shield/index.html [quote] But Biden explained the logic of doing so, saying Iran -- a key concern for the United States -- was not a threat. "I think we are fully capable and secure dealing with any present or future potential Iranian threat," Biden said in Baghdad, where he is on a brief trip. ... "This is catastrophic for Poland," said the spokeswoman, who declined to be named in line with ministry policy. advertisement Poland and the Czech Republic had based much of their future security policy on getting the missile defenses from the United States. The countries share deep concerns of a future military threat from the east -- namely, Russia -- and may look for other defense assurances from their NATO allies. [unquote]
 
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FJV    Yawn   9/21/2009 1:57:44 PM
Since when did the EU care about taking all those "American Pints"? 
Does it really matter, when some of the US posters on this board do not seem to care about shedding US soldiers blood? All the saber rattling and talk about confronting Russia may make you look "manly and macho", but in my view it makes you look like an idiot. It's advocating a policy that puts soldiers at  risk in something totally avoidable to satisfy of some macho BS At the very least it draws away rescources from Iraq and Afghanistan and it also makes it harder to deal with Iran, so in a way this nonsense is already making the average soldier's life more dangerous.
 
And if the EU would have stood firm against a little man "America could have kept it all in our veins at home".
And we're very grateful for that to your grand father. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Ispose    The results are In !!!   9/21/2009 2:10:50 PM
There IS a direct DNA correllation between Darths Lips and Obamas butt.
The west left Czechoslovakia out to dry just 71 years ago and look at what happened....
 
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YelliChink       9/21/2009 2:34:30 PM

Since when did the EU care about taking all those "American Pints"? 

Does it really matter, when some of the US posters on this board do not seem to care about shedding US soldiers blood? All the saber rattling and talk about confronting Russia may make you look "manly and macho", but in my view it makes you look like an idiot. It's advocating a policy that puts soldiers at  risk in something totally avoidable to satisfy of some macho BS At the very least it draws away rescources from Iraq and Afghanistan and it also makes it harder to deal with Iran, so in a way this nonsense is already making the average soldier's life more dangerous.

And if the EU would have stood firm against a little man "America could have kept it all in our veins at home".

And we're very grateful for that to your grand father. 

At least us saber-rattlers have a goal and strategy that is viable and attainable.
 
You offer no strategic objective and of course no viable strategy and tactics to achieve the none-existing strategic goal.
 
And, unfortunately, the Western society is too feminized today that any sign, action and attitude reflecting male power is twisted and ridiculed as "manly," "macho," then regarded as primitive and intellectually unfit to the new feminist society.
 
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DarthAmerica       9/21/2009 2:44:37 PM

There IS a direct DNA correllation between Darths Lips and Obamas butt.

The west left Czechoslovakia out to dry just 71 years ago and look at what happened....


Hey, that's completely uncalled for. Feel free to disagree but spare us the demonstration that your mother failed to teach you how to discuss something without getting personal or vulgar.

-DA 
 
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Ispose    Re: darth   9/21/2009 2:55:04 PM
Just making a pointed observation that from your posts Obama walks on water and is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You are every bit as rabid about Obama as is Bluewing vis a vis the Rafale.
I thinks it was a great day for America to be able to elect a Black President...just not this ACORN idiot....Colin Powell or Condi Rice would have been great...
Just have not been impressed with his "solutions" or his grasp of world politics....
At least ACORN is out of the census business...I would have run them off my property if they would have shown up asking for my personal info...
You have a great deal of info and are a prolific poster but if you have any failings in my eye it is these 2 items:
1 - Obama can do no wrong.
2- I'm a veteran and have knowledge no one else has so bow before my opinion
 
I'm a veteran as well...under a real president...Reagan....but I'll admit that I don't know everything and that Reagan wasn't infallible.
Just my 2 cents
 
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DarthAmerica    @yellichink   9/21/2009 2:58:44 PM




Since when did the EU care about taking all those "American Pints"? 



Does it really matter, when some of the US posters on this board do not seem to care about shedding US soldiers blood? All the saber rattling and talk about confronting Russia may make you look "manly and macho", but in my view it makes you look like an idiot. It's advocating a policy that puts soldiers at  risk in something totally avoidable to satisfy of some macho BS At the very least it draws away rescources from Iraq and Afghanistan and it also makes it harder to deal with Iran, so in a way this nonsense is already making the average soldier's life more dangerous.





And if the EU would have stood firm against a little man "America could have kept it all in our veins at home".





And we're very grateful for that to your grand father. 









At least us saber-rattlers have a goal and strategy that is viable and attainable.

 Is that so? So let me understand your goal.  Narrow down the US options to either accepting a nuclear Iran or war to prevent the same. With what troops are you going to accomplish this exactly? Or did you forget about OIF/OEF? 

You offer no strategic objective and of course no viable strategy and tactics to achieve the none-existing strategic goal.

We just showed you a path that would be very likely to FORCE Iranian compliance since they cannot continue their current policy WITHOUT RUSSIAN SUPPORT.
 

And, unfortunately, the Western society is too feminized today that any sign, action and attitude reflecting male power is twisted and ridiculed as "manly," "macho," then regarded as primitive and intellectually unfit to the new feminist society.

Irrelevant. Basically you and some others don't like this because to you it appears that the United States is appeasing Russia just for the sake of it or because you want Obama to fit into some Carter 2.0 mold you have created in your mind. Do you even realize this is a continuation of Bush policy?

-DA 
 
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DarthAmerica    @yellichink   9/21/2009 3:08:34 PM

Just making a pointed observation that from your posts Obama walks on water and is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You are every bit as rabid about Obama as is Bluewing vis a vis the Rafale.

I thinks it was a great day for America to be able to elect a Black President...just not this ACORN idiot....Colin Powell or Condi Rice would have been great...


Notice who Colin Powell endorsed for POTUS? 
 

Just have not been impressed with his "solutions" or his grasp of world politics....

Your opinion and I have no issue with that. 

At least ACORN is out of the census business...I would have run them off my property if they would have shown up asking for my personal info...

Again, this is an irrelevancy to this thread. 

You have a great deal of info and are a prolific poster but if you have any failings in my eye it is these 2 items:

1 - Obama can do no wrong.

2- I'm a veteran and have knowledge no one else has so bow before my opinion

Thanks but you are wrong on both items. If you notice, I post what the policy and strategy are and rarely if ever state my own feelings about them right or wrong. I also don't think that just because I serve it makes me right 100% of the time. That's why I only post on matters I am sure about. 

 
I'm a veteran as well...under a real president...Reagan....but I'll admit that I don't know everything and that Reagan wasn't infallible.

Just my 2 cents

 
So what constitutes "Real President" and are you suggesting that BHO is somehow different besides political affiliation? That statement alone suggest bias. Think about that and debate this on fact without such vulgar personally directed responses.

-DA 


 
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FJV    Awwwww....   9/21/2009 3:11:10 PM
At least us saber-rattlers have a goal and strategy that is viable and attainable.
A 3 front US conflict, 2 hot ones and 1 cold one, now there's your winning strategy.
 
You offer no strategic objective and of course no viable strategy and tactics to achieve the none-existing strategic goal.
What non-existing strategic goal do you want us to achieve?
 
And, unfortunately, the Western society is too feminized today that any sign, action and attitude reflecting male power is twisted and ridiculed as "manly," "macho," then regarded as primitive and intellectually unfit to the new feminist society.
The "new feminist girly, girls" consistently achieves at least 10 to 1 kill ratio against the hardened macho manly men of Afghanistan.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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DarthAmerica       9/21/2009 3:24:37 PM


The "new feminist girly, girls" consistently achieves at least 10 to 1 kill ratio against the hardened macho manly men of Afghanistan.



 
Kind of funny how the site Machomen Warhawks, not you FJV, forget about things like this, advocate 3 front wars, are completely oblivious to geography, geopolitics or logistics as they beat the war drums. Also kind of reminds me of the Vietnam era "Body Counts".
-DA
 


 

 

 
 
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Ispose    Re: Re: Darth   9/21/2009 3:31:31 PM
Just making a pointed observation that from your posts Obama walks on water and is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You are every bit as rabid about Obama as is Bluewing vis a vis the Rafale.

I thinks it was a great day for America to be able to elect a Black President...just not this ACORN idiot....Colin Powell or Condi Rice would have been great...


Notice who Colin Powell endorsed for POTUS?  - SO WHAT?...he would still have been a better candidate...just because he chose not to run doesn't make Obama the best candidate.
 
 

Just have not been impressed with his "solutions" or his grasp of world politics....

Your opinion and I have no issue with that.  - Fair Enough

At least ACORN is out of the census business...I would have run them off my property if they would have shown up asking for my personal info...

Again, this is an irrelevancy to this thread.  - Just shows a pattern of corrupt cronyism...which is rampant in both parties I will admit to...doesn't make it right

You have a great deal of info and are a prolific poster but if you have any failings in my eye it is these 2 items:

1 - Obama can do no wrong.

2- I'm a veteran and have knowledge no one else has so bow before my opinion

Thanks but you are wrong on both items. If you notice, I post what the policy and strategy are and rarely if ever state my own feelings about them right or wrong. I also don't think that just because I serve it makes me right 100% of the time. That's why I only post on matters I am sure about. 
An example - You say that we cannot deal with Iran militarily - FALSE - we cannot occupy Iran but we can "F" them up and collapse their regime through air and sea power. Just destroy their oil rigs, if it crosses a river or gorge blow it up, destroy airfields, if it produces electricity destroy it and if more than 2 Iranian troops get together bomb the crap out of them....Just refrain from trying to "Nation Build"...blow the crap out of them and let their own internal problems keep them occupied for the next 20 years. We just don't have the cojones as a nation..especially now...to do such a destructive solution.
 

 
I'm a veteran as well...under a real president...Reagan....but I'll admit that I don't know everything and that Reagan wasn't infallible.

Just my 2 cents

 
So what constitutes "Real President" and are you suggesting that BHO is somehow different besides political affiliation? That statement alone suggest bias. Think about that and debate this on fact without such vulgar personally directed responses.
 
FACT...what is Fact?....All these arguements are about viewpoints and opinions...what you may see as "facts" are just arguements to support your opinion...the same applies to my "Facts" in your eyes....You are not willing to look at someone elses viewpoint...it's just Darths "Facts" and everyone else's misguided opinions....I'm as opinionated as the next person but at least I have enough honesty to know that it is my opinion and not "Darths Immutable Laws of the Universe"

-DA 
 
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