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Subject: Obama Is a Bullying Coward
CJH    8/9/2009 12:40:40 PM
You Are Terrifying Us... What has been most unsettling is not the congressmen?s surprise but a hard new tone that emerged this week. The leftosphere and the liberal commentariat charged that the town-hall meetings weren?t authentic, the crowds were ginned up by insurance companies, lobbyists and the Republican National Committee. But you can?t get people to leave their homes and go to a meeting with a congressman (of all people) unless they are engaged to the point of passion. And what tends to agitate people most is the idea of loss?loss of money hard earned, loss of autonomy, loss of the few things that work in a great sweeping away of those that don?t. People are not automatons. They show up only if they care. What the town-hall meetings represent is a feeling of rebellion, an uprising against change they do not believe in. And the Democratic response has been stunningly crude and aggressive. It has been to attack. Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the United States House of Representatives, accused the people at the meetings of ?carrying swastikas and symbols like that.? (Apparently one protester held a hand-lettered sign with a ?no? slash over a swastika.) But they are not Nazis, they?re Americans. Some of them looked like they?d actually spent some time fighting Nazis.
 
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YelliChink       8/10/2009 8:40:04 PM
 

DEADLY DOCTORS

O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE

 

Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change," he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, "as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008).

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Somethings tell me that this is fishy. The universal health care in Taiwan is out of pure ignorance by the politicians and  the public, but things here are driven by more sinister characters for objects of unspoken ugliness.
 
 
 
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VelocityVector       8/10/2009 10:19:53 PM

Fact is that the relative number of vested US citizens who do not contribute directly to production has been increasing in proportion to total population for decades.  The housing market and other convenient social phenomena soaked up the difference until recently.  This all was foreseen/forseeable yet practically nobody had any interest in complaining.  Now, the chickens have come home to roost and decisions about where to go next will have to be made at least for the short term.  This will entail unpleasantness we all would rather place aside.  Indecisiveness itself is a decider though.  Sure, I want to live forever, too; but I won't and I accepted this many moons ago when I started doing stupid sh!t like climbing above 12k and jumping Russian aircraft.  Technically I became of middle age recently FWIW.  0.02

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CJH       8/15/2009 10:28:48 AM

"It is better to allow those who preach racial hatred to expend their venom in rhetoric rather than to be panicked into embarking on the dangerous course of permitting the government to decide what its citizens may say and hear .... The ability of American society to tolerate the advocacy of even hateful doctrines ... is perhaps the best protection we have against the establishment of any Nazi-type regime in this country."

November 1978/Illinois Issues/13
   Now if those Nazi had just been allowed to march in Skokie "They would not even be a memory today".
 
 
                                                                                tigertony
 
 
 
In order to incite seekers after power to a misuse of power we have set all forces in opposition one to another, breaking up their liberal tendencies towards independence.
 
and
 
Abuses of power will put the final touch in preparing all institutions for their overthrow and everything will fly skyward under the blows of the maddened mob.
 
 
The German Nazis seem to have followed the primciples of the Protocols.
Perhaps Collin does too.
 
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CJH       8/15/2009 10:56:43 AM




 Cite your 65% figure. I've seen other numbers. While 65% might thing something needs to be done about healthcare, the support for the current plan is nowhere near that number.







Most people support a policy according to the influence of the policy to their own interests.

 

Given the current economic trend, more and more people will be unable to afford health insurance, thus propel them in favor of government free (or almost free) plan. I wouldn't doubt that there will be 65% supporting nationalized health care in very near future. You must break their American dream before you can persuade them to change the good-old capitalist mindset.



 
I hear, amd perhaps you have heard, that health insurance started out as an incentive intended to get around the wage and price controls (government interference in the private sector) which existed during WWII.
 
I have also heard it said or implied that the availability of health insurance in this country is the primary reason for the high cost of healthcare. Perhaps an acceptance of this observation motivates a resort to rationing.
 
My own prejudices lead me to the conclusion that :
 
1. Government interference contributes to the cost. In the eighties there was a quality craze in industry. I saw a personalized "KAIZEN" (continuous improvement) licence plate. That  interest seemed to be motivated by a desire to compete with the highly quality conscious Japanese so people could keep their jobs.
 
I never have heard of that sort of interest being manifested to that extent by government. Government to me seems largely the antithesis of quality management in so far as politics intrude (Which is most everywhere in government).
 
2. The healthcare industry would probably benefit from studying Dr. Demming's method's the way the Japanese did. That would be how market forces could force a regime of continuous improvement which would inevitably improve efficacy while reducing expense.
 
The healthcare industry needs to be more into a no-cure-no-pay mode which might be enforced through market demand for the services of providers who have a reputation for successful treatment outcomes.
 
3. Lifestyle is a huge factor in the demand for health related services. Obesity really, really generates all kinds of issues for instance. Obstructive sleep apnea is a consequence of  obesity.
 
Convenience foods in this country are a scandal. But people seem not to care. Restaurant servers will throw anything on the table in front of you and expect you to eat it because people are undiscriminating in what they eat. If there were specific cost consequences which derived from poor nutritional choices choices then maybe demand for, and therefore cost overall of, healthcare services would shrink.
 
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CJH       8/15/2009 11:10:50 AM

Fact is that the relative number of vested US citizens who do not contribute directly to production has been increasing in proportion to total population for decades.  The housing market and other convenient social phenomena soaked up the difference until recently.  This all was foreseen/forseeable yet practically nobody had any interest in complaining.  Now, the chickens have come home to roost and decisions about where to go next will have to be made at least for the short term.  This will entail unpleasantness we all would rather place aside.  Indecisiveness itself is a decider though.  Sure, I want to live forever, too; but I won't and I accepted this many moons ago when I started doing stupid sh!t like climbing above 12k and jumping Russian aircraft.  Technically I became of middle age recently FWIW.  0.02


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You seem to be referring to people who shuffle paper as opposed to people who actually make things. And of course in housing, Mexico supplies the people who make the houses.
 
We should have more people making things or should simply be making more things with some people.
But we have a tort law culture. Frivilous lawsuits not only reduce quality healthcare but they make it harder to compete on the basis of making things because manufacturers have to spend money to avoid being victimized by predatory litigation.
 
With various regimes such as OSHA, the government intrudes often unnecessary regulation into industry. Taxes penalize industry. Lack of enforcement of international trade agreements hurts industry.
 
Essentially, we have created a government class of parasites who feed off of the private sector like ticks on a dog.
 
I think that what we are seeing is a transition from being a country where the sought after jobs are paper shuffling ones to where government paper shuffling jobs are most renumerative for the work done.
 


 
 
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CJH       8/15/2009 11:12:39 AM
Of course, I didn't mean to imply that ticks feed off the private sector but rather feed off a dog the way government class people feed off people who work in the private sector.
 
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CJH       8/15/2009 11:19:03 AM
From Obama's lashing out at Rush Limbaugh to his passing judgement on police performance to wanting authors of emails reported to the White House to his characterization of town hall opposition as illegitimate, Obama shows he has a tendency to abuse the power and prestige of the office.
 
I don't believe presidents before him ever got so critical of people in private life as he has.
 
Obama gives me the impression that he believes that the man occupying the office is much more important than the office. I guess he believes the country exists for his self exaltation.
 
 
 
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