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usajoe1    7/8/2009 10:43:32 PM
By Nile Gardiner, July 7th, 2009 It is hard to fathom what the United States will gain from Barack Obama?s much-hyped agreement with Dmitry Medvedev to further cut America?s nuclear arsenal. Washington and Moscow have agreed in principle a framework to reduce their nukes by about a third, to 1,500 to 1,675 warheads over the next seven years. Even more significantly, the two leaders have pledged to cut their nuclear delivery systems (intercontinental ballistic missiles and long-range bombers for example) to just 500- 1,100 units, a move that works greatly to Russia?s advantage as its force projection is far weaker than the U.S. in this area. The new deal, which Obama hopes to wrap up with the Kremlin by December, creates a far more level playing field for the Russians, whose strategic conventional weapons capability is greatly outclassed by that of the Americans, and whose deteriorating nuclear weapons stockpile is aging and in decline. The whole agreement makes no sense, and is little more than a vanity exercise for Barack Obama who has ludicrously pledged to carve out a nuclear-free world. Surely a better strategy would be to further build up America?s defences, including a global missile defence shield, rather than cut defence spending and further gut the superpower?s nuclear capability. At this rate, even Jimmy Carter looks like General Patton compared to the dove-like current U.S. president. Why cut nuclear weapons at a time when rogue regimes such as North Korea and Iran are busy building their own programmes? Does the President seriously believe this move will encourage the likes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il to renounce their nuclear designs? What evidence is there in history that a unilateral policy of disarmament will prompt tyrannical regimes to change their behaviour? It is also unclear what kind of odious quid pro quo deal Washington will have to sign up to in order move the agreement forward. President Medvedev, who serves as little more than Vladimir Putin?s right hand, has made it abundantly clear that the United States will have to sacrifice any plans for a ?third site? missile defence system in eastern and central Europe for Moscow to sign up to a news arms treaty. This would be a huge betrayal of key U.S. allies Poland and the Czech Republic. No doubt Moscow will also demand the Obama administration give the Russians a bigger say over NATO expansion eastwards, including blocking the entry of Georgia and Ukraine. By agreeing to a grand bargain with the Medvedev/Putin regime, President Obama has unwisely opened a Pandora?s box of concessions that will only enhance Russia?s hand in its ?Near Abroad?. At the same time, the Obama administration?s naïve approach will strengthen the resolve of America?s enemies such as Iran to aggressively pursue their nuclear ambitions and exploit the weakness of a president who is gravely undercutting American global power in an increasingly dangerous world.
 
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DarthAmerica       7/9/2009 8:33:40 PM

No, not credible experts. Only misinformed OpEd writers. Everybody credible and who understands wants to reduce the Nuke arsenal. It's a terrible expense and too last war.

Let me guess, you're the expert right You're amazing Dart!

Grading on a curve, on this site, Yes.

-DA 

 
 
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usajoe1    Great response DA   7/9/2009 8:40:11 PM
Grading on a curve, on this site, Yes.
 
On this issue you are as much of an expert as a farmer is on rocket science. Man you have a big ego!
 
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usajoe1       7/9/2009 8:46:08 PM
I post a thread from a respectable source: PHD, Nile Gardiner, Director, Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, areas of expertise: U.S.-British Relations, U.S.-European Relations, NATO, the United Nations, the War on Terror, Iraq, Iran, British Foreign Policy, EU Foreign Policy. But no he don't no jack and you do? get real DA!
 
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buzzard       7/9/2009 8:51:39 PM
On this issue you are as much of an expert as a farmer is on rocket science. Man you have a big ego!
 
 You always forget, DA is an expert on everything (at least that matters), and he always have an infinite source of inside information which he is able to hint at or sometimes vaguely reveal from top level sources. Of course these sources cannot be named or he would have to kill us.
 
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YelliChink       7/9/2009 9:31:20 PM

 last time I checked this is America, and people can have difference of oponion.



Welcome to the New America: United Soviet States of America.
 
 
 
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DarthAmerica       7/9/2009 11:35:10 PM

By Nile Gardiner, July 7th, 2009

It is hard to fathom what the United States will gain from Barack Obama?s much-hyped agreement with Dmitry Medvedev to further cut America?s nuclear arsenal. Washington and Moscow have agreed in principle a framework to reduce their nukes by about a third, to 1,500 to 1,675 warheads over the next seven years. Even more significantly, the two leaders have pledged to cut their nuclear delivery systems (intercontinental ballistic missiles and long-range bombers for example) to just 500- 1,100 units, a move that works greatly to Russia?s advantage as its force projection is far weaker than the U.S. in this area. 

Hard to fathom? Not if you aren't biased and educated on the matter. What America gains is billions of dollars in savings every year by not having to maintain and keep operational thousands of aging nuclear weapons that were designed to be deployed during the Cold War. Remember how people lament about the DoD not having enough money for this and that? Well here is a good effort to make funds available that would have otherwise been wasted. Cutting delivery systems is also a good move for the same reasons.
As to the assertion that this is to Russia's advantage, how? Because on paper it will look like the Russians have nuclear parity? Please. The Russians will have trouble maintaining even this reduced arsenal and would never be able to reconstitute their weapons of delivery systems as quickly as the United Stated could in the event that the treaty broke down. Speaking of treaty, per the NPT, an often overlooked and misunderstood document we are supposed to disarm and reduce nuclear stockpiles. THIS MOVE IS US AND RUSSIAN COMPLIANCE. The NPT is what stops nuclear arms from proliferating to nations who actually have the technology to make them and miniaturize them so as to be useful weapons.

Key Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) Provisions

Article I: Each nuclear-weapon State (NWS) Party (limited to United States, United Kingdom, China, France and Russia) undertakes not to transfer, to any recipient, nuclear weapons, or other nuclear explosive devices, and not to assist any non-nuclear weapon state to manufacture or acquire such weapons or devices.

Article II: Each non-nuclear-weapon State (NNWS) Party undertakes not to receive, from any source, nuclear weapons, or other nuclear explosive devices; not to manufacture or acquire such weapons or devices; and not to receive any assistance in their manufacture.

Article III: Each non-nuclear weapon State (NNWS) Party undertakes to conclude an agreement with the IAEA for the application of its safeguards to all nuclear material in all of the state's peaceful nuclear activities and to prevent diversion of such material to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.

Article VI: The states undertake to negotiate toward general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.

Article X: Establishes the right to withdraw from the Treaty. It also establishes the duration of the Treaty (25 years before 1995 Extension Initiative).

 
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EvilFishy       7/9/2009 11:47:55 PM

He is a walking, talking logical fallacy. Why anybody even listens to him on a level beyond basic weaponry and infantry tactics is beyond me. If I want an opinion on the best way to park a truck, I will give him a call.

Oh and my super duper secret source tells me that his super duper secret source is full of ****.

 
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usajoe1       7/9/2009 11:51:29 PM
This writer does not know what he is talking about.
 
No DA, you don't know what you're talking about. I trust a guy who is PHD, and an EXPERT! in the field, rather than a guy who thinks his an expert. You'r knowledge on the subject has zero credibility, as you're still hypnotized by Obama. When you wake up from your hope and change dream, then maybe you can see how wrong you are.
 
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DarthAmerica       7/10/2009 12:16:01 AM

This writer does not know what he is talking about.
 

No DA, you don't know what you're talking about. I trust a guy who is PHD, and an EXPERT! in the field, rather than a guy who thinks his an expert. You'r knowledge on the subject has zero credibility, as you're still hypnotized by Obama. When you wake up from your hope and change dream, then maybe you can see how wrong you are.


Sure son. Just respond to the data. If you can...

-DA 
 
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usajoe1       7/10/2009 12:51:07 AM
Sure son. Just respond to the data. If you can...
 
PHD Nile Gardiner. already told you everything you need to know about my views on the subject, so wake up and smell the coffee, self proclaimed expert. 
 
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