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debugger 4/18/2009 1:57:01 AM

[ This a copy of my post from the other -older- Tea Party thread, minus a couple spelling errors.]

The Tea Parties seem to be a great success! There were several hundred thousand

working people who made the time to attend. The message put out was opposition to

the bailouts and spending. CNN overplayed and went hysterical which only made things

better. Fox, the only network which sometimes (not often) gets it right, got it right from

what I heard. Fox was rewarded by huge, enormous, ratings, possibly higher than all the other

networks combined.

There were only two drawbacks. Newt spoke at the Atlanta gathering. Perhaps the organizers

fell for the pinkos flattering appraisal of him in the 90's, that Newt "wanted to shut the

government down." A shut down federal government would be bad, but much better than what

we have, in any case Newt would campaign for a democrat before he would support a Ron Paul

like candidate.

The other mistake was having Hannity at one of the New York gatherings, although he seems

have laid off of Ron Paul lately.

I did hear one Obama supporter say that there didn't seem to be many blacks at the rally. The only

picture I saw did not support that theory. Was the Obama guy suggesting that blacks were racist? ;)

Yes. A good day. A very good day.

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EvilFishy 4/18/2009 2:06:54 AM

Hannity was in Atlanta and it was a BIG CROWD!

WND has preliminary estimate over 750,000 nation wide and possibly as over 1,000,000 people which, for the middle of a work day, is not bad.

The News Media seems fixated with dirty jokes and trying to paint this as a Republican organization. I can see why seeing as every Liberal march has to be orchestrated and they have to pay/bus protestors in.

Get 20 people to protest or 100 people led by a crazy **** to protest Bush and all the networks line up.

Get a million people out during the day, with no major acts of violence (and they were damn clean when they protestors left, unlike your average littering liberal protest) and the only coverage you get, save for Fox, is sex jokes.

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Jimme 4/18/2009 4:22:23 AM

I think it was a disgrace how the msm has covered this huge important event. The lone star as always is Fox who often gets it right, hence why their ratings keep climbing, and I'm not talking the cable news, i'm talking its network news.

Did anyone see the CNN correspondent at one of the events strait antagonizing the person she is interviewing who, unlike most people at liberal rallies, actually knew what he was talking about. Then she tells him he will get a tax credit not even knowing anything about the man or his finances. Then there are the MSNBC interviews with the one z list actress calling the people at the tea parties racist red necks who are whiny cause they don't want to pay their taxes. They should tell that to Democrat politicians who Obama keeps appointing. Not to mention the serious under reporting of numbers while like saying Atlanta only had 2000 when the local authorities estimated 20k!

Fact is these where Republican AND Democrats who actually work for a living and realize that they and their children are going to end up paying in the thousands for a $700 check. Every one of these productive members of society is worth 20 jobless liberals making their numbers that much more impressive, and they ACTUALY know what they are protesting about.

Clueless Pelosi had the nerve to call it astroturf and dismiss this as right wing nonsense. To bad unlike Liberal protesters these people actually vote and make a difference. I look forward to the next party so I can make sure to attend.

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Nanheyangrouchuan 4/18/2009 8:09:12 PM

I think it is a disgrace that this is only happening after Bush has left office.

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debugger 4/18/2009 10:24:41 PM

I think it is a disgrace that this is only happening after Bush has left office.

Why stop with Bush? It is a disgrace such spending wasn't stopped about 100 years ago.

The 'out' party doesn't supply freedom lovers with much in the way of arguments.

When Bush was in office there was no real votes against his spending or the scope of the wars or even the

lack of declaration of war. There was plenty of Move-on protests against the wars but the dems mostly

complained about the management and focus of the wars. When the election got closer even Move-on

dropped out, as if the only problem with the war was the body count, which was low in a historical context.

Move-on has moved on, now that the abomination is in office. The dems offer nary a whisper about a buildup

in Afghanistan. Today Donald Rumsfeld ideas should put him on track for the so-called Nobel Peace prize.

Rumsfeld, as I recall, was against sending anything more than CIA and special forces to the land locked country.

So how about it dems, should Rumsfeld be nominated for the Nobel Peace prize in order to embarrass the the current war mongering president?

Huh? Huh? Perhaps the reason you guys aren't complaining is because your afraid Obama will have the homeland Security declare you a "suspect." Or send you to Egypt ro be tortured.

The out of office Republicans have not done better. While they opposed the Porkulus bill, they supported spending bills and bailouts. When they sneak into the tea parties they try to shift the focus to taxes and away from the spending. All spending has a corresponding 'taking.' Even if all direct taxing was eliminated ( great thought though), with the spending there would be a corresponding 'taking' in the form of currency devaluation and rises in interest rates.

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sentinel28a 4/19/2009 2:30:28 AM

Because of bailout mania back in September, Nan?

I'd have to agree with you on that one.

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PlatypusMaximus 4/19/2009 2:51:55 PM

I think it is a disgrace that this is only happening after Bush has left office.

Which is more disgraceful, complaining about what we did, or doing what we complain about most?

The coverage was lame...Other than FNC...(literally) CNN sent one correspondent to openly argue against the protesters.

Now, they criticize the critics...Party of No?..Will it backfire?

They said this was a top-down movement sponsored and promoted by those terrible rich people and foxnews..

Did you see the signs amid the sea of red, white & blue? countless, witty, complex slogans and phrases.

Yes we can? ...can what?..THIS???

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PlatypusMaximus 4/20/2009 8:52:55 AM

Widespread and directed at both parties (from both parties) in every legislature, from sea to shining sea.

...an "clearly" at CNN(according to CNN)

h**p://www.reason.org/news/show/1007295.html

(Much more here)

"...Consider the boom cycle preceding this latest recession. In the five years between 2002 and 2007, combined state general-fund revenue increased twice as fast as the rate of inflation, producing an excess $600 billion. If legislatures had chosen to be responsible, they could have maintained all current state services, increased spending to compensate for inflation and population growth, and still enacted a $500 billion tax cut.

Instead, lawmakers spent the windfall. From 2002 to 2007, overall spending rose 50 percent faster than inflation. Education spending increased almost 70 percent faster than inflation, even though the relative school-age population was falling. Medicaid and salaries for state workers rose almost twice as fast as inflation...

....It encompasses every dollar available to state governments: tax revenue, money from the federal government, income from trust funds, earnings from investments, even state employee contributions to pension systems. In 2002 total combined state revenue was $1.097 trillion (see Figure 1). In 2007 this figure had risen to almost $2 trillion. That?s an 81 percent increase, at a time when prices plus population increased 19 percent. So total revenue increased more than four times faster than inflation and population growth.

81 percent increase over five years only tells part of the story. Since 2002 total revenue collections have been well above the levels needed to maintain services each year. This windfall has a cumulative impact. In just five years, taking inflation into account, the states collected $2.2 trillion more than they would have needed to maintain revenues at 2002 levels.

Let?s put this another way. After 2007 we were clearly experiencing an economic downturn. If the states had merely maintained their existing programs between economic downturns, they would have been able to deliver a $2 trillion tax cut at the end of 2007. Imagine the impact that might have had.

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timon_phocas 4/20/2009 9:40:41 AM

We have, since January, budgeted and spent more money than were spent on seven years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh yes, throw in all that we spent on Hurricane Katrina recovery as well.

I did not approve the spending increases under President Bush. But comparing Bush's spending to Obama's is like comparing a leaky faucet to a gushing fire hydrant.

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JIMF 4/20/2009 2:32:57 PM

Bill Kristol, who is sympathetic to the Tea Party "movement", said the total turnout was about 250,000. Still not bad. This is primarily a Republican phenomenon so I would expect African-American involvement to be minimal.

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