Agreed:  Appropriate and well-enforced legislation.  Exactly what all the many tens of millions of pro-gun Americans want.  No, it does not suggest that to me, instead it suggests that those criminals hampered by it instead turned to other means to obtain their firearms anyway in spite of it.  Yes, my better idea(s) has/have already been shared, as well as my reasons why the ideas you mentioned are not better ideas, and are shared by those same tens of millions of Americans I mentioned above.  Existing laws (when enforced) certainly can cut it just as well as your proposed new ones (when enforced), and with the added benefit of being less undesirably intrusive into the lives of 99% of gun owners who have not and never will commit a crime with their guns, as well as the 100% of Americans who will have their whole Constitutional system and heritage further eroded by them.  This issue is not merely about crime statistics, even though they are sufficiently on the side of liberalizing gun ownership, because murder rates by instrument used are not the only thing that is important in life.  If it was, then as has been pointed out before, all sorts of objects would "need" to be banned. 

Yes,  what they typically do is expand the definition of 'children' to include 18 year old and below. Thus you capture the statistics for the majority of gang bangers who are a huge chunk of the firearm related deaths in this country as they fight over drug dealing turf. This is simply deceptive and dishonest. Hell, they could include death rates for 18 old soldiers as well if they really wanted to inflate things I suppose and it would be equally honest.

Yeah screw them, they aren't real children whose deaths we care about because they aren't nice white, middle class all American kids. Never mind that many of them have never met their fathers, that their mothers are crack whores and that they have never had any example set beyond that which the gangs provide. That makes no difference because we are libertarian's and we just "got it" when it comes to how to live a wholesome life. Our environment and upbringing had nothing to do with it  so we don't even need to be grateful that we grew up under decent circumstances.

Since these nigger and spic kids are so useless we'll just keep letting them have cheap guns to kill each other off because we don't really give a shit about them. We definately don't care enough to consider measures which might make it harder for them to get guns in the first place. That might make it a little bit harder and expensive for for us to get a guns too and God Dammit, we might only have enough money left over to get a 50 inch plasma TV rather than that 63 inch one that we really wanted or God forbid we might only be able to afford a 6 cylinder vehicle rather than 8!  We can't have good folk sitting their fat arses in front of a substandard telly or in an under-powered pussymobile that for the sake of a 16 year old "Gangbanger's" life now can we! 

 

I am going to report the above to the sysop because it was eminently uncalled for.  You may be frothing at the mouth too much to understand that, but it absolutely was.