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Subject: So - Sarah Palin - McCains VP selection
Ashley-the-man    8/29/2008 10:43:41 AM
Now we have to get out some Crib notes on this Alaska gov.
 
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Ashley-the-man       8/29/2008 11:05:58 AM
Graduated from the University of Idaho.  First all of my Idaho Vandal friends have to endure getting thumped every year by Boise State in football.  Now all of the local Univ of Idaho liberal lawyers will have the indignity of a young - conservative - attractive hockey mom - gaining more recognition and influence than they. 
 
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YelliChink       8/29/2008 11:16:39 AM
Nice. It just keeps getting better. A half white partnered with a WASP against old white war hero partnered with former beauty pageant. I really didn't see that coming. This is BIG OIL against BIG BANK, and it seems that BIG OIL have full pockets while BIG BANK are just struggling out of sub prime crisis.
 
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Softwar       8/29/2008 11:16:50 AM
I suspect this will take the air out of Obama's post convention poll bounce right away.  All in all - a good tactical move by McCain.
She is a real live executive and has run a state with international importance - knocked heads by sacking old hacks in her own party and took on BP Amoco to build their own gas pipeline without taxpayer support.  She is no inside-the-beltway pol in the pocket of lobby groups or corporate interests.
 
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Barca       8/29/2008 11:31:48 AM
 
Terrific timing for McCain.  Very few will be thinking about the Democratic Convention.
Even the Sunday talking point shows may lead with Obama, but this story will generate more excitement and buzz.
 
If McCain wins the General Election, she will become the leading candidate to be the next president.  Liberal women don't want another Geraldine Ferraro that loses the election and then disappears from view.  They want respect and they are not going to let 'Woman on the ticket' = losing.
 
She is the only major US elected official with negative rating of less than 10%  We could see McCain winning Alaska with over 90% of the vote.  The Russians will accuse him of rigging the election.
 
 
 
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Barca       8/29/2008 11:50:24 AM
Another point.
This shores up McCain's base.  The major split in American politics is married people going Republican, and singles going Democrat.  I think moms were already going to vote for McCain, but this will make more energetic and more will come out.
 
John is trying to protray himself as the maverick he is, while Obama is trying to tie him with Bush.  This way outsider really helps the Republican campaign slogans.
 
She comes across as the person I wish I had married, as opposed to those 'celebrities'  (the McCain camp is too polite to call them bimbos) that were on stage the last night of the Democratic Convention.
 
OTOH, she is not an attack dog.  VPs are often chosen to go negative like Biden and Cheney before him.  I am sure that whe will wilt in the debates, but the buzz is worth it for McCain.
 
 
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FJV    Hmmmm.   8/29/2008 5:43:33 PM
A female vice president for the disaffected Hillary Clinton fans to vote for. With the possibility for a female president (Hillary) gone in this election, the Republican party offers "the next best thing" to certain female voters, that is the 1st female vice president in US history (if I'm not mistaken).
 
And after this election if Sarah Palin proves to be a good politician, you immediately have a female counter candidate for Hillary Clinton in 2012.
 
Very interesting, if Mc Cain is as good at manipulating our enemies as he is at playing the election, then we may end up being OK.
 
 
 
 
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PlatypusMaximus       8/29/2008 7:43:36 PM
So THAT'S what Chris Matthews was taking about...
 
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smitty237    Sarah Barricuda   8/29/2008 7:51:40 PM
OTOH, she is not an attack dog.  VPs are often chosen to go negative like Biden and Cheney before him.  I am sure that she will wilt in the debates, but the buzz is worth it for McCain.
 
Don't be so sure.  On Fox today they quoted a source that said that the Alaska landscape is littered with the bodies of Palin's political opponents.  She has also earned the nickname "Sarah Barricuda" because she is an aggressive, hard nosed politician.  The VP debates are a lose/lose proposition for Biden.  If he savages Palin he will come across as a bully, but if he goes too soft and gets his butt kicked that will help McCain. 
 
I've heard that Palin may have some corruption or abuse of power issues involving an incident that took place with her sister's messy divorce, but I really doubt the Obama camp wants to open that door since he has some family issues of his own.
 
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PowerPointRanger    Obama has been Obama'd   8/29/2008 10:27:45 PM
For many months BO's political rivals were paralyzed by the identity politics of BO.  How could they attack a minority candidate without being accused of being racist?  HRC proved it could be done, but too late.  BO had already locked up the nomination.
 
Now BO must find a way to attack a woman candidate without offending the women voters he has already alienated by his snub of HRC.  He hastily withdrew an attack ad calling her too inexperienced and unqualified to be a heartbeat away from the president. Forgetting that he himself is running to be president with even less experience than she has.
 
Let's face it, since winning the nomination, McCain has outmaneuvered BO at every turn.  All BO's money and media hype can buy him a lead he can keep.  Is it just me or is he starting to resemble Elmer Fudd?
 
In choosing Palin, McCain has picked a candidate that can draw the conservatives that McCain has alienated and the women that BO has alientated.
 
And she's kinda hot too.  That doesn't hurt.
 
Let's see if BO's convention bump survives the weekend.
 
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American Kafir       8/30/2008 7:47:14 AM
Well, first let me say to my beloved fans - no, Hillary Clinton will not be the next President of the United States.
 
Obama's idea of "change and progress" is Joe Biden, a Senator that's been in Washington 14 years longer than John McCain.
 
Joe Biden, the Democrats' "foreign policy expert" (roflmao - man, talk about trying to upsell Burger King as a 5-star restaurant) that dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination after barely beating the guy that wants to ban orbital mind control lasers in the Iowa caucus. The man who had less hair when he ran for President in 1988.
 
Salin Palin's 6 years as a small town mayor and 2 years as a Governor give her approxiamately 8 more years of executive leadership experience than Obama and Biden put together.
 
Extremely conservative, intelligent, down to earth....
 
Joe Biden's not going to get up and bloody her nose.
 
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Shirrush    Woo-hoo!   8/30/2008 8:28:51 AM
This is getting interesting!
Mrs. Pallin appears to represent a breed of Americans we've never seen before in World politics!
I'd go out on a limb and tag her a "colonial". She is of the kind of people that retain some of the spirit of the founders of the USA, pioneering, living of the land, huntin' and fishin', and all that. She's reasonably "green", and has been known to stand up to Big Oil. She's not a Chicago lawyer or a Washington bottom-feeder. Most importantly for us in the ROW, she seems safe: just like McCain who has experienced first-hand the nastiest sides of war, she's not going to hurry and start one, since her first son is in harm's way and she is, after all, a mother.
 
There is, however, some nervousness around here in Israel, due to allegations of her and her hubby taking an active part in Pat Buchanan's campaign back in '99. Let's see how she wriggles out of that. Her first response, that she extended the paleo-rightist antisemite the same welcome she'd have granted, as a mayor, to any other candidate, is not very convincing. We'd need some more on this, or the GOP loses Florida...
 
Anyhoo, I wish you all Yanks a good political time. I would love to join the fray though, but I'll have to wait for a few more months for this to happen in my own country. 


 
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CJH       8/30/2008 11:35:45 AM

I suspect this will take the air out of Obama's post convention poll bounce right away.  All in all - a good tactical move by McCain.


She is a real live executive and has run a state with international importance - knocked heads by sacking old hacks in her own party and took on BP Amoco to build their own gas pipeline without taxpayer support.  She is no inside-the-beltway pol in the pocket of lobby groups or corporate interests.


Exactly! That's why (the only one of the four who qualifies on the basis of experience) the knives will be out too! Look out Barracuda!
 
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American Kafir       8/30/2008 11:36:42 AM

There is, however, some nervousness around here in Israel, due to allegations of her and her hubby taking an active part in Pat Buchanan's campaign back in '99. Let's see how she wriggles out of that. Her first response, that she extended the paleo-rightist antisemite the same welcome she'd have granted, as a mayor, to any other candidate, is not very convincing. We'd need some more on this, or the GOP loses Florida...


Well, Florida Democrats might be a little ticked off that their votes were among those ignored by the Democratic convention when it came time to award Barack Obama the nomination via affirmative action (Hillary Clinton won 355 Electoral College votes' worth of states in the primaries to Obama's 180, and nearly 2 million more total popular votes than Obama) Barack Obama was given the nomination despite being barely (if at all, considering some votes are more equal than others in the DNC) able to beat one of the most despised womyn in American politics.

On the other hand, Hamas endorses Barack Obama, and Joe Biden is one of Iran's best friends in the Senate.
 
Keep in mind, the Democratic Party is the party that kicked out Joe Lieberman for merely supporting the war in Iraq, but can't seem to find a way to back anyone against their KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd.
 
 
 

 
 
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appleciderus    How's that old saying go?   8/30/2008 3:18:44 PM
You can fool some of the people all of the time, fool all of the people some of the time, but the Democratic Party believes they can fool a majority of voters until November 11th as follows:

The product of the Chicago Democratic machine will clean up Washington!

A BHO administration would be gangrenous!


 
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longrifle       8/30/2008 5:04:13 PM
I hear she cooks a great mooseburger - from a moose that she usully kills herself. 
 
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