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Subject: Russia vs. America (Central Nuclear War)
DGreat1    8/4/2008 10:51:06 PM
Central Nuclear War Note: Central Nuclear war refers to a war between the United States and Russia in which nuclear weapons are used against the heartland and or major strategic forces of both powers. Central Nuclear War is not likely to be a zero sum game where the gain of one is the loss of the other. Herman Kahn, Thinking about the Unthinkable Jones Note The Global War on Terror has altered the validity of Dr. Kahns assessment, as the potential inclusion of another Islamic Fundamentalist nation as a nuclear weapons armed entity would prove to be the type of breakthrough that could effectively neutralize America?s global dominance should one of those nations choose to strike during a conflict between Russia and the United States. Iran, who is poised to become the second Islamic Fundamentalist nation to acquire a nuclear weapons capability, would be highly motivated to accelerate their involvement in terror on a region specific and even global basis, therefore, effectively solidifying their status as maybe the most dangerous nation in the world. Pakistan, who was the first Islamic Fundamentalist nation to acquire a nuclear weapons capability would then be forced to break away from their alliance with America in order to maintain their status as the dominant force in the Middle East. Central Nuclear War in Theory Theoretically, central nuclear war will be the result of a diverse range of variables that will have convinced Russia or the United States of the fact that CNW is more appealing than inaction concerning a given predicament. It is important to note that this is indicative of theatre occurrences within the Middle East, as both America and Russia have forged alliances with terror sponsoring nations in Pakistan and Iran that may very well lead them to the brink of central nuclear war. Should Iran reciprocate the feat that saw Pakistan become the first Islamic fundamentalist nation to acquire a nuclear weapons capability, the future may hold catastrophic consequences for both America and Russia as central nuclear war will be only a flashpoint intervention variable away from occurring. This will be due to the fact that terror sponsoring nations like Pakistan and Iran will hold facilitative proxy war subordinate roles that could reconfigure the current structure of region specific and global alliances due to the worlds reliance on the natural resources in the Middle East. In a scenario such as this, nations like Russia and the United States will see CNW as more appealing than the likelihood of losing regional and or global viability to terror sponsoring nations like Pakistan or Iran. This is but one variable that articulates the potential logic of central nuclear war in theory. Central Nuclear War Facilitators Prolonged Global War on Terror- While there is no doubt that the war on terror must be fought and won decisively, there must also be a plan to accomplish realistic goals in a condensed timeframe so as not to fall victim to the exertions of war, as this could leave America vulnerable to a Russian attack or facilitate the same by way of flashpoint intervention variables. For example, one such variable may appear in the form of Russian grievances concerning US influenced sanctions against Russias Iranian allies. The GWOT must maintain some semblance of broad acceptance with clear and concise short term goals that will not ramp up into full scale wars like Iraq and Afghanistan, as these types of wars are costly in regards to money, personnel and materials. Proliferation by Terror Sponsoring Nations- The paradigm shift that saw a terror sponsoring nation like Pakistan acquire nuclear weapons has presented the world with the most daunting task in the world today, as this problem has increased the tension between Russia and the United States concerning central nuclear war. Exacerbation of US based Regional Initiatives- The Middle East is clearly the region of interest here, as US based initiatives have brought America into direct conflict with Russia as America works feverishly to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability and effectively destabilizing the region. While America is pursuing a noble cause it will be imperative that precautions be taken concerning future initiatives, as Russia has formed an alliance with Iran that will have a major impact on her ability to maintain or surpass her current status in regards to global viability. Russia has a lot riding on the future of Iran as Russian leaders clearly made a decision to forge an alliance with Iran in the belief that they would risk losing regional influence in the Middle East if they did not align themselves with one of the current or future proponents of the paradigm shift that has given terror sponsoring nations inclusion into the nuclear weapons society. Russian strike out of the blue- Should Russia execute a spontaneous attack, it will mos
 
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RockyMTNClimber    Russia and Iran   8/5/2008 3:15:27 PM
Russia's interest in Iran is limited to the amount of cash Iran is willing to give Russia for technology (I'd allow for the fact that Russia is playing Iran off of US but not to the extent a war would start). Russia's greater interest is it's more western partners whom are her customers for natural gas and oil. Iran's demise wouldn't break Russia's heart. 
 
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displacedjim       8/5/2008 5:55:56 PM
Terrance, I admit I'm not particularly interested in the topics you tend to write about, but I couldn't resist popping in and checking out a Braddock post for old time's sake.  It's hard to tell which parts are your writing and which parts are quotes, but I would say that even just the "Jones Note" paragraph exhibits a clear improvement in your writing style.  I hope you continue to avoid jargon in your future efforts.
 
 
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DGreat1       10/11/2008 2:12:14 PM
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I will try to step my game up a notch.   
 
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Barca    Nuclear Proliferation   11/29/2008 11:14:47 AM
I don't think Russia will initiate a direct attack on the US.
Rather Russia is giving every rougue regime nuclear technology which will eventually cause a nuclear incident.
Who will Iran and Venzuela give a nuclear weapon?   And how do we stop them?
 
 
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lurker       11/29/2008 12:45:40 PM
Nah I don't believe Russia is giving countries close to its borders nuclear technology.
 
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DGreat1       11/29/2008 7:57:23 PM

I don't think Russia will initiate a direct attack on the US.

Rather Russia is giving every rougue regime nuclear technology which will eventually cause a nuclear incident.

Who will Iran and Venzuela give a nuclear weapon?   And how do we stop them?

 


If Iran is successful in acquiring nuclear weapons, I believe that they would share this technology with Al Qaeda. Iran is currently giving refuge to over 100 Al Qaeda operatives, so there is already a connection between Iran and Al Qaeda. This is an important fact that we must not ignore, as Islamic terrorist normally do not cross sectarian boundaries to accomplish their goals. Iran is a Shiite nation and Al Qaeda is a Wahabi Sect based Sunni Muslim organization. There is also a strong possibility that Iran would give a nuclear weapon to Hezbollah, as there are indications that Hezbollah is attempting to project power through an expansionist agenda that would facilitate terrorist attacks throughout the Middle East and other strategic areas around the world. 
 
 
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Zhang Fei       11/30/2008 12:43:17 AM
If Iran is successful in acquiring nuclear weapons, I believe that they would share this technology with Al Qaeda.

What if al Qaeda used a nuke against a Western power and then showed them evidence that Iran provided the weapon? Al Qaeda doesn't have real estate to defend, so it doesn't have to worry about retaliation against relatives or fellow countrymen. Its funding comes from an amorphous network of religious types in the Muslim world. It can act to destroy Iran, the nation of Persian heretics that aspires to rule all of Arabia, by siccing the West on to its nuclear source. This is why the Iranians are going to be leery of providing a nuke to parties that consider Iran an enemy. It's one thing to provide them with conventional weaponry, and quite another to provide them with WMD's.
 
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DGreat1       11/30/2008 3:25:59 PM


If Iran is successful in acquiring nuclear weapons, I believe that they would share this technology with Al Qaeda.




What if al Qaeda used a nuke against a Western power and then showed them evidence that Iran provided the weapon? Al Qaeda doesn't have real estate to defend, so it doesn't have to worry about retaliation against relatives or fellow countrymen. Its funding comes from an amorphous network of religious types in the Muslim world. It can act to destroy Iran, the nation of Persian heretics that aspires to rule all of Arabia, by siccing the West on to its nuclear source. This is why the Iranians are going to be leery of providing a nuke to parties that consider Iran an enemy. It's one thing to provide them with conventional weaponry, and quite another to provide them with WMD's.





Many would have applied your logic to the scenario that saw the Taliban give shelter to Osama Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda companions. American analysts clearly believed that there was no way that the Taliban would be complicit in an Al Qaeda attack against American interests, as Afghanistan would be held responsible for such actions. The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 proved that Islamic terrorist are not as rational as we would have them be. It is very naive of you to suggest that Iran, the world's most ardent supporter of terrorism, will show restraint once they acquire a nuclear weapons capability. Iran is fully cognizant of the fact that a Iranian facilitated nuclear attack against America would also facilitate hesitation in regards to a nuclear response due to the likelihood of a catalysis effect concerning attacks of this nature. Proliferation in the region would be exacerbated by such occurrences. A nuclear attack against Iran would sever the strategic alliance between America and Pakistan who would be under immense pressure to put aside sectarian differences and support their fellow Muslims in Iran. The arab street would demand a show of unity by the only two nations in the Middle East who have attained military viability through the acquisition of nuclear weapons. It is imperative that Iran be decisively deterred from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability.
 
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Zhang Fei       12/1/2008 6:59:54 PM
The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 proved that Islamic terrorist are not as rational as we would have them be.

On the contrary. Given the pinprick American responses of the past, and Pakistan's support for the Taliban, and control of the most viable route into Afghanistan, the Taliban were eminently rational in concluding that the US would respond to yet another terrorist attack with little more than a sackcloth and ashes routine combined with an attempt via Afghan mercenaries to arrest bin Laden. Now that we've fought two wars, spent close to a trillion dollars in the aftermath of 9/11, lost twice as many people as died on 9/11, and inflicted hundreds of thousands of deaths directly and indirectly on the Ummah, the Muslim world knows that Uncle Sam is not to be trifled with. A nuclear detonation on American soil would result in millions of Muslim dead - maybe tens or hundreds of millions. And the Iranians must know that any such event, if traced back to them, would result in the physical extermination of the Persian race.
 
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