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Subject: North Dakota Oil - Bakken Area The New Saudi Arabia?
CJH    6/8/2008 8:30:04 PM
"While recent advances in heavy oil recovery have proven useful in bringing the highly viscous liquid to surface, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) estimates of Bakken Formation hydrocarbons released April 10 are being met with a ticker-tape parade, as well as a tad bit of skepticism."
 
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eldnah       6/10/2008 9:45:41 AM
Exploration for and utilization of oil from the Bakken region will br fought tooth and nail by the left. There are two  fundamental reasons. They don't want any evil oil used. Since they cannot control Mid-East production they will do everything they can to prevent US production. Secondly by forcing the US to rely more and more on foreign oil they damage the dollar further increasing the cost of gas, hurt the economy and thereby undermine the President to prepare the path for the Obamessiah. 
 
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Wicked Chinchilla       6/10/2008 10:04:20 AM
Considering the election is in a matter of months and the time it would take to actually start pulling oil out of the bakken formation is measured in years I think thats a bit too much conspiracy theory.
 
With current technology how much of this formation is actually recoverable anyway?  USGS estimates it at about 20 billion recoverable barrels I last read somewhere...of course that was off of a newspaper article and not an official document.  If true though thats hardly a Saudi Arabia.  Anyone have better info?
 
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eldnah       6/10/2008 12:30:37 PM
The "Bakken Conspiracy" has been going on for many years in its no ANWAR nor offshore drilling and no nuclear power manifestations in anticipation of and facilitating a Democratic return to the White House. With the favorable turn in Iraq the Left and its MSM enablers are reliving the glory days of "It's the economy stupid". The Messiah today just happens to be Obama. He/She could have as easily been Clinton, Edwards, Biden or your neo-Marxist du jour.
 
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RockyMTNClimber    Bakken size....   6/10/2008 2:43:19 PM
Several sources put this field at around 500 billion barrels. That's with a "B". This field has been well known for a long time and it has taken new technology in oil exploration have improved our ability to pull this resource. The MSM and those who oppose US oil exploration are down playing this reserve number and in fact are resisting opening Bakken tracks that happen to be located on public land. Bakken, new fields in the Gulf of Mexico, ANWAR, and off the West Coast of California total more untapped reserves than anyone can imagine. The world is awash in oil.
 
This circumstance we find ourselves in today is the result of a determined effort on the part of people inside our country to make our economy less capable. Gov'ts interference in the world oil market is the cause of $135.00 barrel oil, not obscene profits. 
 
Drill More Oil.
 
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YelliChink       6/10/2008 7:05:22 PM
Yeah there are still oil out there, but enough is enough. We know we can't go on like this forever, while the excavation and refinery cost of these crude sources are much higher than cheap oil that we get so used to. No more! It's time to find another way to drive SUVs around, and it'll not be cheap anymore.
 
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RockyMTNClimber    Yelli reply   6/10/2008 8:01:07 PM
There fore what? Crash the world economy? in particular the US economy?
 
Like it or not our economy runs on oil. To keep its cost down we need to allow our private industry to explore and extract this resource without interference from the Gov't. Period. Any deviation from that course raises costs for all products, causes truely terrible political backlash, and subverts our nation's destiny to a bunch of hitleresc thugs.
 
Food for fuel has demonstrated its predictable effect of promoting starvation. Solar energy does not put out enough energy to satisfy world demand without blanketing the planet with solar panels, wind is the worst possible on the local environment as well as never available "on demand", The list goes on.
 
Don't buy the hype drill the oil, build the nuke plants, and tell the arabs to sod off.
 
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PlatypusMaximus       6/10/2008 9:54:43 PM
I don't understand why we don't use food more as a leverage. We're competing against countries for oil from other countries...of which very few can feed themselves.
 
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Bob       6/10/2008 11:17:15 PM

Bakken, new fields in the Gulf of Mexico, ANWAR, and off the West Coast of California total more untapped reserves than anyone can imagine. The world is awash in oil.
Amen.

You'd think if the Air Force's active wartime budget is like 50-60-70% devoted to fuel (or whatever the numbers are), they'd start like one or two Black Programs at Minot where they'd "renovate" a "nuclear missile silo" or something and slant drill / bake the shale to make it recoverable. Lockheed Martin's Elk Works, or something. :)

I'm all for drilling everywhere. At this point, I'm all for strip mining vast swathes of the planet Earth.

We're not gonna get anywhere though, given the fact that a naturally occuring atmospheric compound is now "pollution" all of a sudden.

At the very least, it proves to me the political environmentalists are and have always been Watermelons.

Blanket the Mojave in solar panels to power the entire planet earth and these whackos will find some way to prove that electricity itself naturally disrupts Gaia's mystical energy fields or something and will speed up continental drift.

 
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YelliChink       6/11/2008 3:48:28 PM
link size="2">Technical Abstract: As a result of a sharp increase in gasoline/petroleum prices we, at the USDA¿s National Center for Agricultural Utilization Research, have intensified our research program on bioconversion of agricultural biomass such as corn stover, corn fiber, rice and wheat straw, rice hulls, switch grass, and miscanthus to biofuels (ethanol, butanol, acetone) and chemicals by fermentation. In order to achieve economic production of these fuels and chemicals, various unique approaches including upstream processing (hydrolysis of biomass to release sugars), genetic manipulation of microorganisms, bioreactor and bioprocess development, and product separation and purification are applied. Butanol, which is a superior fuel than ethanol, can be produced using Clostridium beijerinckii P260. We have used a number of agriculturally based substrates including corn, corn fiber, corn fiber xylan, and wheat straw for the production of this valuable fuel. A number of processes have been developed that include: i) batch; ii) fed-batch; iii) separate hydrolysis and fermentation; iv) combined hydrolysis and fermentation; and v) simultaneous hydrolysis, fermentation, and recovery processes. The details of these processes on the production of butanol from agricultural biomass will be presented. Recently, DuPont Chemicals and British Petroleum have announced commercialization of this valuable fermentation to produce motor fuel.

 
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