There are alot of people who think the war on drugs just makes things worse, weaking one cartel will make another stronger, taking away there source of income, IE legalising the drugs where the governments buy up the crops and supplies and give them as perscriptions, those how think that probably don't get that the cartels will instead focus on fighting the government and not each other.

 

Problems fighting cartels:

 

They have public support, the buy people off or make good will guestures like building schools, yet they will leave some poor kids without a father or mother without a second thought, use that against them.

 

They are funded buy every day citizens in our own country, we should inform them of what they are supporting, and offer other means to help with their addiction, they are not criminals just idiots.

 

It is usually up to the police to fight these bandits they are terrorists, police are not ment to fight wars, it is time the miliatry started targeting the strong holds, they may be safe from a police raid but what about a smart bomb? Lets use the Israeli tactics against them. If any one says that is inhumane, they should look at the current picture.

 

This is a covert war the proplem is it requires massive resources and it is hard to keep everything quiet, the public will view this as a pointless quagmire. It is also time we looked at GMing the crop, removing or chaning the enzymes which make the base chemicals needed by the drug trade. As for exisiting crops, destroy them they should be burnt and the soil "salted" (plants usually have a certain margine ing which they can grow change the soil conditions and they wont grow) If they are growen in a building or underground smart bomb it.

 

The government of the farmers who grow these crops for the cartels also need to look at ways of supporting them, as they turn to drug crops for money.

 

 

  Simply put "Illegal = Mass Corruption".

 

  Now how can i prove this? Before making alcohol illegal it was cheap and not worth boot legging. Now after it was made illegal we got Al Capone and the St Valentines Day Massacre!. So can you name just one bootlegger today?

 

  You cannot win when they have more money,more resources,and a far bigger army,including some of our our own!.

 

   I do think that the only chance we have is to close down our border and use National Guard to aid border patrol or DEA. And actually as a matter of National Security the DoD should have the right to use US Army to keep both illegal drugs and illegal people out.

 

  Now this may help to stop Mexico,but Canada is still in the game!.

 

 

                                                                        tigertony

Instead of flushing money down a toilet in Iraq, use that money to help boost Mexico's economy and also provide better pay and for their troops and police to cut down on corruption. It would not be money wasted, we would probably see dividends in having less illegal immigration, a stronger partner in war on drugs, and a stronger trading partner as well.

 

Also legalize pot in the USA. Let freedom ring.

 

I suppose this will become worthwhile after Mexican drug mafiosi fly airliners into our government's buildings (Not out of the question I guess).

Until then, Iraq is a bigger priority.

 

The irony is that they are American citizens who are funding the drug cartels. We definitely do need to emphasize what our drug users are reponsible for bringing about by induging in their habits.

 

Isn't it odd that people who smoke cigarettes are pariahs yet people who snort coke are often respected and highly paid professionals.

 

Either we need to make effective headway against consumption alone or we need to legalize production of drugs (perhaps while also keeping consumption illegal) to pull the financial rug out from under the cartels while we figure out how to deal with use.

 

The harm is usually in the medically unsupervised and use of drugs.

 

I sometimes wonder if legalization wouldn't be better provided that the law mandates that a person's drug use is advertised to all the people around them.

Darth, I hope all is well in the sand box.

 

The issue you have questioned is IMV an emperor's new clothes thing. McCain, Clinton, Hussein (oh, very sorry, that's Hussein Obama), the DNC, the RNC, Gov. Schwartzenager, the US House of Representatives, the US Senate, The Agricultural Lobby, the Lawyers, the Bankers, Bakers, the Butchers, and the Candlestick Makers, all support open illegal immigration. To draw attention to our "border issues" today is impolitic. The fact that Mexico is being politically influenced by our enemies and members of FARC is not something that is supposed to be discussed in polite conversation. 

 

On the topic of illegal drugs,

As much of the money being controled, generated, and fought over on our border with Mexico today is about illegal immigration (people smuggling), not drugs. Should we just open the borders and do away with that illegal slave trafficing as well?

 

Check Six

 

Rocky

Like I said, we know who these guys are, we also know where they hide, a few curise missile strikes and JDAMs should be enough to decapitate the cartels, and what happens when you kill the leader of a group of backstabbing greedy thugs?