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Subject: News From the Front Line RE:Obama
DarthAmerica    3/10/2008 4:12:07 PM
He is viewed in a very positive way by most troops. I've started to see magazine cut outs in some of the barracks of him and there is a vibe that a lot of troops want to vote for him. Demographically, its hard to say how things break down racially. I know some older White Soldiers who won't vote for him period and others who would. Black and Latino soldiers seem to favor him. Women too. This is a very weird election cycle compared to the last 3 I've been through while in uniform. -DA
 
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DarthAmerica       3/12/2008 2:01:51 AM


You da man.     

Oh, yes----that's an interesting observation re. Obama. Can you elaborate on why the troops view him positively?



I think some of it has to do with all the hype surrounding him and also the strong desire for a change. No matter what Obama's politics are he is definitely a change as far as the nation is concerned and inspirational on a personal level. His candidacy is unprecedented to say the least.

-DA

There was another stuffed-shirt hollow-man machine-politician  do-nothing Hollyweird star-type incompetent that made it to the Presidency.

His name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

The man, who did all the donkey work and solid achievements for which that tyro gets credit, was the badly abused  LBJ, who never gets a fair shake from history..

Herald
Herald,

I'm sure you have noticed that Obama happens to be Black with a muslim name. Now that by itself doesn't have anything to do with his qualifications or ability to do the job but it certainly is unprecedented for such an individual to have a serious chance at the white house. It certainly would be unprecedented as far as millions of minority US citizens are concerned who have always grown up knowing that something like this is practically impossible. It certainly would change the perceptions of some nations around the world who still view the United States as a bastion of racism and double standards. I know this through direct interaction with many foreigners, sometimes in their native tongue. It would also be a huge culture shock to some white Americans who may not be intentionally racist but because of American culture harbor unintentional prejudices.

Obama represents the most dramatic change in race relations for in the United States since the end of the civil war. Anyone who denies this is not being rational.


-DA 
 
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DarthAmerica       3/12/2008 2:02:00 AM


You da man.     

Oh, yes----that's an interesting observation re. Obama. Can you elaborate on why the troops view him positively?



I think some of it has to do with all the hype surrounding him and also the strong desire for a change. No matter what Obama's politics are he is definitely a change as far as the nation is concerned and inspirational on a personal level. His candidacy is unprecedented to say the least.

-DA

There was another stuffed-shirt hollow-man machine-politician  do-nothing Hollyweird star-type incompetent that made it to the Presidency.

His name was John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

The man, who did all the donkey work and solid achievements for which that tyro gets credit, was the badly abused  LBJ, who never gets a fair shake from history..

Herald
Herald,

I'm sure you have noticed that Obama happens to be Black with a muslim name. Now that by itself doesn't have anything to do with his qualifications or ability to do the job but it certainly is unprecedented for such an individual to have a serious chance at the white house. It certainly would be unprecedented as far as millions of minority US citizens are concerned who have always grown up knowing that something like this is practically impossible. It certainly would change the perceptions of some nations around the world who still view the United States as a bastion of racism and double standards. I know this through direct interaction with many foreigners, sometimes in their native tongue. It would also be a huge culture shock to some white Americans who may not be intentionally racist but because of American culture harbor unintentional prejudices.

Obama represents the most dramatic change in race relations for in the United States since the end of the civil war. Anyone who denies this is not being rational.


-DA 
 
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Herald12345    Irish Catholic   3/12/2008 6:10:01 AM
You may have noticed that the bootlegger's son was am Irish Catholic in an era when Irish Catholic was as looked down upon in bigoted America as Barack's cultural origin is in current America? I could care less about that crap. What concerns me is that I am building up an evidence train that this opportunistic, corrupt  Illinois machine politician is masking his double dealing, political treachery, his sellout to special interests;

Obama the sellout 1.... 

Obama the sellout 2....

Obama the Sellout 3....

Obama the Sellout 4....

Obama the Sellout 5....

Obama the Sellout 6....

Follow the money.

He stinks to high heaven.

Herald
 
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DarthAmerica    HERALD REPLY   3/12/2008 4:14:39 PM
It's not the same for a lot of Americans believe me. I don't minimize any ones struggle BUT some have had it a lot rougher than others and still do. Race should not decide this election. But it will have a lot to do with it. That's not necessarily a bad thing depending on your point of view. Also, I can't think of a politician who wasn't somehow shady in one way or another. If I wanted to I could go word for word with you comparing Obama to the others and the end result is they would all have dirt. Only two of them will represent fundamental change to the nation regardless of their policy IMHO.


-DA
 
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Softwar       3/12/2008 4:24:28 PM

It's not the same for a lot of Americans believe me. I don't minimize any ones struggle BUT some have had it a lot rougher than others and still do. Race should not decide this election. But it will have a lot to do with it. That's not necessarily a bad thing depending on your point of view. Also, I can't think of a politician who wasn't somehow shady in one way or another. If I wanted to I could go word for word with you comparing Obama to the others and the end result is they would all have dirt. Only two of them will represent fundamental change to the nation regardless of their policy IMHO.


-DA


I think you are getting all worked up over nothing.  Hillary is the Dem candidate.  She has made it clear - its her turn.  It's MY PARTY and I'll cry if I want to!  She and her hubby will strong arm the super-delegates into voting for the machine.  Obama can rack up as many victories as he likes but it won't matter.  She knows where all the bodies are buried.

Despite what you wrote above - its pretty clear that race is part of your reasoning to vote for Obama - not the man.  To me race is not a factor - experience is.  I refuse to vote for someone who thinks that an RPG is World Of Warcraft or a Marine is some doorman that I can kick everytime I pass by.  Both Dems fall into this category.
 
 
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RockyMTNClimber    enough of the Self Rightous Liberals   3/12/2008 6:23:31 PM
They are the torture enthusiasts, the war-of-choice enthusiasts, the radio talk show jerks who send other people's children to wars their own kids don't volunteer for.
 
My Nephew has been twice, my son is on his way now, not to mention the rest of the family's service. The story is the same with my neighbors, clients, and friends. This crap about only the poor and ethics serving is asinine. Who ever the putz was that wrote that tripe uses flat out lies to justify his bigotry. I've personally had enough of these self righteous boobs and their liberal socialist candidates who's policy choices will guarantee more wars and with worse consequences.
 
As for the republicans, both Bush boys worked their entire Presidencies to make sure this set of policies were FUBAR'ed to the max. McCain doesn't look any better to me. Oh Reagan, Where Art Thou?
 
Check Six
 
Rocky
 
PS: Cool ride Darth! Bring him up to Colorado and we'll see how he does on the mountain. Stay safe-come home soon.
 
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MSickle    Agree with Darth...   3/12/2008 11:55:33 PM
From your earlier post...

"I think some of it has to do with all the hype surrounding him and also the strong desire for a change. No matter what Obama's politics are he is definitely a change as far as the nation is concerned and inspirational on a personal level. His candidacy is unprecedented to say the least.
-DA"

I think you describe exactly how I see things too man.  I have a strong feeling that both of the other two are grizzled politicians with years of political deals already stacked up.  They *will* both be ready on day one - ready to cut deals with special interests, that is.

Matt
 
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GreyJackal       3/13/2008 1:06:06 AM
If you want a politican who has a complete clean slate when it comes to dirty dealings, then Ron Paul is you man....so is Mike Gravel(yes, he is still running). Of the big three McCain is the most likely to annoy the special interest groups in DC with his independant headstrong ways.
 
I agree though, the excitement Obama generates is unprecedented.
 
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DarthAmerica    softwar reply   3/13/2008 7:45:31 AM



Despite what you wrote above - its pretty clear that race is part of your reasoning to vote for Obama - not the man.  To me race is not a factor - experience is.  I refuse to vote for someone who thinks that an RPG is World Of Warcraft or a Marine is some doorman that I can kick everytime I pass by.  Both Dems fall into this category.

 


Hey slow down a second. You are making a very big assumption. Where did I ever say anywhere I was voting for Obama?
 
-DA
 
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PlatypusMaximus       3/13/2008 8:27:48 AM
DA,
  You Sir, are the man! Great pic. Thanks for sharing.
 
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