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Subject: The women in Obama's life
Zhang Fei    2/25/2008 1:59:09 PM
(Quote) "Cherchez la femme," advised Alexander Dumas in: "When you want to uncover an unspecified secret, look for the woman." In the case of Barack Obama, we have two: his late mother, the went-native anthropologist Ann Dunham, and his rancorous wife Michelle. Obama's women reveal his secret: he hates America. We know less about Senator Obama than about any prospective president in American history. His uplifting rhetoric is empty, as Hillary Clinton helplessly protests. His career bears no trace of his own character, not an article for the Harvard Law Review he edited, or a single piece of legislation. He appears to be an empty vessel filled with the wishful thinking of those around him. But there is a real Barack Obama. No man - least of all one abandoned in infancy by his father - can conceal the imprint of an impassioned mother, or the influence of a brilliant wife. America is not the embodiment of hope, but the abandonment of one kind of hope in return for another. America is the spirit of creative destruction, selecting immigrants willing to turn their back on the tragedy of their own failing culture in return for a new start. Its creative success is so enormous that its global influence hastens the decline of other cultures. For those on the destruction side of the trade, America is a monster. Between half and nine-tenths of the world's 6,700 spoken languages will become extinct in the next century, and the anguish of dying peoples rises up in a global cry of despair. Some of those who listen to this cry become anthropologists, the curators of soon-to-be extinct cultures; anthropologists who really identify with their subjects marry them. Obama's mother, the University of Hawaii anthropologist Ann Dunham, did so twice. Obama profiles Americans the way anthropologists interact with primitive peoples. He holds his own view in reserve and emphatically draws out the feelings of others; that is how friends and colleagues describe his modus operandi since his days at the Harvard Law Review, through his years as a community activist in Chicago, and in national politics. Anthropologists, though, proceed from resentment against the devouring culture of America and sympathy with the endangered cultures of the primitive world. Obama inverts the anthropological model: he applies the tools of cultural manipulation out of resentment against America. The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised. Ann Dunham died in 1995, and her character emerges piecemeal from the historical record, to which I will return below. But Michelle Obama is a living witness. Her February 18 comment that she felt proud of her country for the first time caused a minor scandal, and was hastily qualified. But she meant it, and more. The video footage of her remarks shows eyes hooded with rage as she declares: For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. The desperation, frustration and disappointment visible on Michelle Obama's face are not new to the candidate's wife; as Steve Sailer, Rod Dreher and other commentators have noted, they were the theme of her undergraduate thesis, on the subject of "blackness" at Princeton University. No matter what the good intentions of Princeton, which founded her fortunes as a well-paid corporate lawyer, she wrote, "My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my 'Blackness' than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong." Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public. Early in Obama's campaign, Michelle Obama could not restrain herself from belittling the senator. "I have some difficulty reconciling the two images I have of Barack Obama. There's Barack Obama the phenomenon. He's an amazing orator, Harvard Law Review, or whatever it was, law professor, best-selling author, Grammy winner. Pretty amazing, right? And then there's the Barack Obama that lives with me in my house, and that guy's a little less impressive," she told a fundraiser in February 2007. "For some reason this guy still can't manage to put the butter up when he makes toast, secure the bread so that it doesn't get stale, and his five-year-old is still better at making the bed than he is." New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd reported at the time, "She added that the TV version of Barack Obama sounded really interesting and that she'd like to meet him sometime." Her handlers have convinced her to be more tactful since then. "Frustration" and "disappointment" have dogged Mich
 
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Plutarch    Interesting   2/25/2008 2:25:04 PM
That's a very interesting article, who wrote it?
 
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xylene       2/25/2008 3:11:02 PM
I seem to get the impression that the author may have some issues with Barack Obama. The author thoroughly trashed Obama's father, mother, and wife. Why stop there, why don't they go after those evil children too.
 
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Herald12345    I too would like the source.   2/25/2008 3:14:45 PM
Herald
 
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Herald12345    I too would like the source.   2/25/2008 3:17:49 PM
Found it published in the Asia Times.

Found here....

Credited byline is "Spengler".

Herald


 
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Zhang Fei    Michelle Obama: "Don't Go Into Corporate America"   2/29/2008 3:45:33 PM

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I have a new story today about Michelle Obama's visit to Zanesville, Ohio, where she met with a group of women at a local day care center.  According to the U.S. Census, Muskingum County, where Zanesville is located, had a median household income of $37,192 in 2004, below both the Ohio and national averages.  Just 12.2 percent of adults in the county have a bachelor's degree or higher, also well below the state and national averages.  About 20 percent don't have a high school degree.  Nevertheless, Mrs. Obama urged them to foreswear lucrative professions like corporate law or hedge fund management and go into the helping industry, even if the sacrifice is great:

As she has many times in the past, Mrs. Obama complains about the lasting burden of student loans dating from her days at Princeton and Harvard Law School. She talks about people who end up taking years and years, until middle age, to pay off their debts. ?The salaries don?t keep up with the cost of paying off the debt, so you?re in your 40s, still paying off your debt at a time when you have to save for your kids,? she says.

?Barack and I were in that position,? she continues. ?The only reason we?re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books? It was like Jack and his magic beans. But up until a few years ago, we were struggling to figure out how we would save for our kids.? A former attorney with the white-shoe Chicago firm of Sidley & Austin, Obama explains that she and her husband made the choice to give up lucrative jobs in favor of community service. ?We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we?re asking young people to do,? she tells the women. ?Don?t go into corporate America. You know, become teachers. Work for the community. Be social workers. Be a nurse. Those are the careers that we need, and we?re encouraging our young people to do that. But if you make that choice, as we did, to move out of the money-making industry into the helping industry, then your salaries respond.? Faced with that reality, she adds, ?many of our bright stars are going into corporate law or hedge-fund management.?

What she doesn?t mention is that the helping industry has treated her pretty well. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama?s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office. And that does not count the money Mrs. Obama receives from serving on corporate boards. She would have been O.K. even without Jack?s magic beans.
Mrs. Obama also bemoaned the amount of money she has to spend — nearly one-third of the median household income in Zanesville — on piano, dance, and other lessons for her two children.  But she was grateful for the concern her husband's supporters have shown for her. "Everywhere I go, no matter what, the women in the audience, their first question for me is, 'How on earth are you managing it, how are you keeping it all together?'" she told the women.
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Zhang Fei    Can't survive on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year?   2/29/2008 3:52:01 PM
You're not alone. Mrs. Obama empathizes. If only we would forgive her student loans, she'd get by:

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Zanesville, Ohio — ?Everywhere I go, no matter what, the women in the audience, their first question for me is, ?How on earth are you managing it, how are you keeping it all together???

Michelle Obama is sitting with a group of six women around a table in the basement playroom of the Zanesville Day Nursery, here in economically troubled central Ohio. Her talk is of struggle — her own struggle, the women?s struggles, the struggles of women across the country. There are struggles over money, over kids, over jobs, over husbands and ex-husbands. And perhaps most of all, there is the struggle inside.

?It?s a constant sense of guilt,? Obama, dressed simply in a blue sweater with a triple strand of pearls, tells the women of her own dilemma as a working mother. ?It?s guilt, feeling guilty all the time.?

So how does she keep it all together? ?I?m fine, because I have a strong informal support network,? Obama says. ?I have a mother who lives five minutes from me. I don?t know what I would do, even if we weren?t running, I don?t know what I would do as a professional without having that kind of support system. So that keeps me sane.?

But not everyone has a close relative living nearby. And not everyone can afford to keep it all together, especially here in Muskingum County, where, according to the census, the median household income in 2004 was $37,192, below both the Ohio and national average. Out of that, there?s the mortgage. And child care. Health care. Education. Lessons. ?I know we?re spending — I added it up for the first time — we spend between the two kids, on extracurriculars outside the classroom, we?re spending about $10,000 a year on piano and dance and sports supplements and so on and so forth,? Mrs. Obama tells the women. ?And summer programs. That?s the other huge cost. Barack is saying, ?Whyyyyyy are we spending that?? And I?m saying, ?Do you know what summer camp costs???

With all those concerns, one might wonder whether the women should be comforting Mrs. Obama, but she assures them that she?s really O.K. ?We don?t complain because we?ve got resources because of our education. We?ve got family structure,? she says. ?So I tell people don?t cry for me.?

But there are still problems. As she has many times in the past, Mrs. Obama complains about the lasting burden of student loans dating from her days at Princeton and Harvard Law School. She talks about people who end up taking years and years, until middle age, to pay off their debts. ?The salaries don?t keep up with the cost of paying off the debt, so you?re in your 40s, still paying off your debt at a time when you have to save for your kids,? she says.

?Barack and I were in that position,? she continues. ?The only reason we?re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books? It was like Jack and his magic beans. But up until a few years ago, we were struggling to figure out how we would save for our kids.? A former attorney with the white-shoe Chicago firm of Sidley & Austin, Obama explains that she and her husband made the choice to give up lucrative jobs in favor of community service. ?We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we?re asking young people to do,? she tells the women. ?Don?t go into corporate America. You know, become teachers. Work for the community. Be social workers. Be a nurse. Those are the careers that we need, and we?re encouraging our young people to do that. But if you make that choice, as we did, to move out of the money-making industry into the helping industry, then your salaries respond.? Faced with that reality, she adds, ?many of our bright stars are going into corporate law or hedge-fund management.?

What she doesn?t mention is that the helping industry has treated her pretty well. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama?s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office. And that does not count the money Mrs. Obama receives from serving on corporate boards. She would have been O.K. even without Jack?s magic beans.

So her struggle appears to be somewhat different from the struggles of the women sitting at the table. In addition to its below-average median household income, Muskingum County?s unemployment rate has risen in recent years. And it is not filled with Harvard-educated lawyers. According to census data, just 12.2 percent of adults in the county have a bachelor?s degree or higher — well below the Ohio and national average. About 20 percent don?t even have a high school degree. They
 
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doggtag    found in the Asia Times, eh?   2/29/2008 4:23:35 PM
...What do we have here?
Some PRC-funded Hillary stooge, hiding out in another country, set out to discredit Obama however subtley in the name of Herr Clinton?
Certainly doesn't sound typical of Republican smear tactics...
 
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Zhang Fei       2/29/2008 4:41:42 PM
...What do we have here?
Some PRC-funded Hillary stooge, hiding out in another country, set out to discredit Obama however subtley in the name of Herr Clinton?
Certainly doesn't sound typical of Republican smear tactics...

PRC-funded stooge? Sounds like you're projecting here. Besides, it's not a smear if it's true. Have a problem with information that casts doubt on your Messiah? Don't read it.

Obama is the worst of McGovern and Carter rolled into one, pure and simple. He makes Kerry look like a John Birch conservative. If you like Obama, you just haven't been paying attention. One look at Obama's voting record is all anyone needs to know about his ideological proclivities. Clinton was actually an OK president for a Democrat. He was far better than Roosevelt (Great Depression, New Deal), Johnson (Great Society) and Carter (Panama Canal handover, fall of Nicaragua and Iran, stagflation). All I know is that we don't need another left-winger like Carter in office - we've got a war to fight and a post-bubble economy to revive.
 
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Zhang Fei       2/29/2008 4:43:57 PM
Not to mention a China that is really feeling its oats. We need someone who is not wedded to the perpetual self-pity, sense of entitlement (at non-black America's expense) and navel-gazing of black America.
 
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doggtag       2/29/2008 11:26:40 PM


...What do we have here?

Some PRC-funded Hillary stooge, hiding out in another country, set
out to discredit Obama however subtley in the name of Herr Clinton?

Certainly doesn't sound typical of Republican smear tactics...


PRC-funded stooge? Sounds like you're projecting here. Besides, it's not a smear if it's true. Have a problem with information that casts doubt on your Messiah? Don't read it.

Not projecting anything more than just speculating further along from all those numerous other posts brought up god-only-knows how many times by other posters about how the Clintons and x-number of their closest political allies are/were on the take, receiving PRC bribes campaign contibutions or whatever you chose to call the generous chinese hand outs.
As far as seeing Obama as some sort of Messiah.
Not a chance in all of Heaven or Hell I see him as such.
If I am devout about anything, it's that I am wholly anti-democratic party.
I would prefer to keep USA meaning "United States of America" under a strong, military-minded republican government, rather than it it mean "Union of Socialist America" under Clinton and her ideals.
We should be encouraging people to make more of their lives, not just keep feeding them along on one more government-subsidized hand out.
But if I was forced at gunpoint to vote only for a democrat, it certainly wouldn't be a snobbish white female who, I personally believe, will have a difficult time getting any real measure of respect by the key leaders one of our most serious trouble spots: the Middle East.


 
 
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