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Subject: RE: Organic Food
celebrim    3/3/2004 5:41:37 PM
"Obviously, Celebrim, you've not had organic litchi juice and are still drinking Tropicana or something like that."

No, obviously you've reached the boundary of your knowledge in the subject and are trying to blow me off with dismissive comments.

My wife did here Master's work studying bt's effects on the European corn borer. I've personally been a part of and done field research for pesticide studies. I've worked at orchards, and if you've ever worked for a university ag department you should know something about the availablity of fresh produce. I grew up on a farm. But lest you still insist on dismissing my tastefulness, I lived for three years in Jamaica and had paupaya, tangerines, banana's and gauvas growing in my yard. I know both what fruit is supposed to taste like and how it is grown commercially.

'Organic' food can be labeled as such even if it is treated with pesticides like pyrethroids or neural disrupters like rotinown. Although the organic industry is quick to tell you that these 'naturally derived pesticides' are safer than synthetic ones, the truth of the matter is that they were largely abandoned prior to the organic label becoming popular precisely because they are so toxic.

That word 'organic'. I don't think it means what you think it means.

And I always think it is funny that 'organic' nuts always talk about low pesticide usage crops like leechee and kiwi's whenever they talk about the success of organic farming. The truth of the matter is that leechee's or kiwi's have never required intensive pesticide usage because the yield damage on those crops is not usually sufficient to justify it. So alot of farmers just continued what was basically thier regular practice but got to slap 'organic' on the label. Well, duh. It pretty much always had been.

And juice! Juice is one of those highly processed products where pest damage doesn't matter too much anyway.
 
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