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Subject: while the government monitors our calls and emails...
Nanheyangrouchuan    8/1/2006 9:18:57 PM
link Border agents let fake IDs go through By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 9 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Undercover investigators entered the United States using fake documents repeatedly this year ? including some cases in which Homeland Security Department agents didn't ask for identification. ADVERTISEMENT Get Our Top 20® Newsletter in Your Inbox Each Week! The Most "WOW!" Travel Deals on the Internet - here's a sampling: Released JUL 26, 2006 Systemwide Fall Sale to 40+ Cities $49 & up JetBlue Airways Paris & London: 8 Nights incl. Air & Rail $699 Gate 1 Travel Bahamas "Atlantis" Resort at 50% OFF $119 Atlantis, Paradise Island California & Reno from 20+ Cities $59-$129 Frontier Airlines Click on Any Deal and Check Them Out Today! *Fares listed may not include all taxes, charges and government fees. More information. © 2006 Travelzoo Inc. At nine border crossings on the Mexico and Canadian borders, agents "never questioned the authenticity of the counterfeit documents," according to Government Accountability Office testimony to be released Wednesday. "This vulnerability potentially allows terrorists or others involved in criminal activity to pass freely into the United States from Canada or Mexico with little or no chance of being detected," concluded the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, in testimony obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. The findings, to be presented to the Senate Finance Committee, come as Congress considers delaying a 2007 deadline requiring passports or a small number of previously approved tamperproof ID cards from all who enter the United States. Homeland Security spokesman Jarrod Agen said agents are trained to identify false birth certificates, driver's licenses and other documents. But he conceded that agents sometimes cannot verify more than 8,000 different kinds of currently acceptable IDs without significantly slowing border traffic. "This creates a security vulnerability we were hoping to close" with the deadline at the end of next year, Agen said. The GAO probe follows a similar inquiry in 2003 and 2004 when undercover investigators crossed unhindered into the United States at least 14 times using counterfeit drivers' licenses and, in one case, an expired, altered U.S. diplomatic passport. During that investigation, however, border agents in New York and Florida stopped three undercover officials who were using expired and forged passports, drivers' licenses or birth certificates. By comparison, between February and June 2006, 18 GAO investigators breezed by border agents at checkpoints in California, Texas, Michigan, Idaho, Washington state, and twice each in Arizona and New York. In two cases ? in Arizona and California ? border agents did not ask the undercover investigators for any identification. In a third case, in Texas, investigators offered to show identification ? a counterfeit Virginia drivers' license. The border agent replied, "OK, that would be good," but released the investigators before inspecting it, according to the prepared testimony by GAO investigator Gregory D. Kutz. Two of the 9/11 hijackers used fake Virginia residency certificates to get valid state ID cards needed to board the planes that flew into the World Trade Center. Neither GAO probe specified the location of any border checkpoints investigators went through. The 9/11 Commission called for tougher ID card rules at borders to help prevent terrorists from entering the country. Responding, Congress in 2004 approved requirements for all travelers ? including Americans ? to show passports or a small number of other approved secure documents before entering the U.S. Those requirements are supposed to take effect Dec. 31, 2007. But lawmakers from states that border Canada have since rebelled, contending the rules could hamper commercial and tourist travel. They are pushing to delay the rules by 17 months to ensure Homeland Security has proper technology to speed legitimate travel though border checkpoints. Agen said Homeland Security agents intercepted 75,000 fraudulent documents from border travelers last year. The department last month arrested a Mexican fugitive suspected of running a counterfeit document operation whose fake ID cards have turned up in all 50 states.
 
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AlbanyRifles    Tiger Tony   8/31/2006 9:13:37 AM

Okay take a deep breath.  We can do without all of the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand you are passionate on this point.  However, your argument is not with me but with the Courts and the Constitution.  The website I sent you to shows US Public based on the 14th Amendment....hence the Constitution has been heard from on this topic.

So I guess we will agree to disagree. 

 
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tigertony    Albany   8/31/2006 6:48:21 PM

1} I will continue with my use of !!! as much as i wish!!! And why??? Well because as you are so fond of bringing up "It is my right of freedom of expression" given to me by them writers of the US Constitution!!!. You on the other side dont have to read them!!!. And why??? Well again "Because it is your right not to agree given you by those same writers!!!".

2} You seem to miss the whole real issue "What part of illegal dont you get???". They quite simply put "Should not have kids in the USA!!!"  because  "They simply dont belong here!!!".

3} Have A Nice Evening!!!

                                                       tigertony

 
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papahausser    Email and Phone monitoring has nothing to do with terrorism   9/1/2006 4:42:58 PM
Everyone in the security agencies know the Bin Laden's gang knows better.  The only thing they find this way is groups like the retards in Miami that can't even blow their own noses.  They are quite aware that they are typically using peer to peer voice and instant messaging such as Skype which uses RSA encryption and is currently something that can't be cracked in our lifetimes.  Its so easy to set up your peer to peer clients to do this, so no one wants to come out and say that is what is really happening.  So why the monitoring?  Because Gonzalez and Cheney want to demonstrate that the executive branch can do anything they feel is necessary during "times of war."  Which given they have declared a war on terrorism means forever I guess.  That is what this is about -- executive power.  Congress has just rolled over on this and won't the Republicans be sorry when a Dem is in the White House?  I always thought that the executive branch was there to execute laws, not determine them, but hey, the US Constitution is not in touch with the modern world, so who needs it anyway?
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    its good to be the king   9/1/2006 8:42:15 PM
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