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Nanheyangrouchuan    8/1/2006 9:18:57 PM
link Border agents let fake IDs go through By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 9 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Undercover investigators entered the United States using fake documents repeatedly this year ? including some cases in which Homeland Security Department agents didn't ask for identification. ADVERTISEMENT Get Our Top 20® Newsletter in Your Inbox Each Week! The Most "WOW!" Travel Deals on the Internet - here's a sampling: Released JUL 26, 2006 Systemwide Fall Sale to 40+ Cities $49 & up JetBlue Airways Paris & London: 8 Nights incl. Air & Rail $699 Gate 1 Travel Bahamas "Atlantis" Resort at 50% OFF $119 Atlantis, Paradise Island California & Reno from 20+ Cities $59-$129 Frontier Airlines Click on Any Deal and Check Them Out Today! *Fares listed may not include all taxes, charges and government fees. More information. © 2006 Travelzoo Inc. At nine border crossings on the Mexico and Canadian borders, agents "never questioned the authenticity of the counterfeit documents," according to Government Accountability Office testimony to be released Wednesday. "This vulnerability potentially allows terrorists or others involved in criminal activity to pass freely into the United States from Canada or Mexico with little or no chance of being detected," concluded the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, in testimony obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. The findings, to be presented to the Senate Finance Committee, come as Congress considers delaying a 2007 deadline requiring passports or a small number of previously approved tamperproof ID cards from all who enter the United States. Homeland Security spokesman Jarrod Agen said agents are trained to identify false birth certificates, driver's licenses and other documents. But he conceded that agents sometimes cannot verify more than 8,000 different kinds of currently acceptable IDs without significantly slowing border traffic. "This creates a security vulnerability we were hoping to close" with the deadline at the end of next year, Agen said. The GAO probe follows a similar inquiry in 2003 and 2004 when undercover investigators crossed unhindered into the United States at least 14 times using counterfeit drivers' licenses and, in one case, an expired, altered U.S. diplomatic passport. During that investigation, however, border agents in New York and Florida stopped three undercover officials who were using expired and forged passports, drivers' licenses or birth certificates. By comparison, between February and June 2006, 18 GAO investigators breezed by border agents at checkpoints in California, Texas, Michigan, Idaho, Washington state, and twice each in Arizona and New York. In two cases ? in Arizona and California ? border agents did not ask the undercover investigators for any identification. In a third case, in Texas, investigators offered to show identification ? a counterfeit Virginia drivers' license. The border agent replied, "OK, that would be good," but released the investigators before inspecting it, according to the prepared testimony by GAO investigator Gregory D. Kutz. Two of the 9/11 hijackers used fake Virginia residency certificates to get valid state ID cards needed to board the planes that flew into the World Trade Center. Neither GAO probe specified the location of any border checkpoints investigators went through. The 9/11 Commission called for tougher ID card rules at borders to help prevent terrorists from entering the country. Responding, Congress in 2004 approved requirements for all travelers ? including Americans ? to show passports or a small number of other approved secure documents before entering the U.S. Those requirements are supposed to take effect Dec. 31, 2007. But lawmakers from states that border Canada have since rebelled, contending the rules could hamper commercial and tourist travel. They are pushing to delay the rules by 17 months to ensure Homeland Security has proper technology to speed legitimate travel though border checkpoints. Agen said Homeland Security agents intercepted 75,000 fraudulent documents from border travelers last year. The department last month arrested a Mexican fugitive suspected of running a counterfeit document operation whose fake ID cards have turned up in all 50 states.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/1/2006 9:35:47 PM
I'm missing the vulnerability, being that going through a border agent is completley optional anyway.
 
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EW3    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/1/2006 9:59:07 PM
I'm with Nanny on this. Close the freakin borders. And stop with the silly immigration policy that lets so many people into the country each year as students (that never go home.) Nanny, open borders is a demo position. Ted Kennedy is a lion for not prosecuiting illegal aliens. He wants (has voted for it already) to give them social security benefits. Homeland Security needs a major rework. Granted it is a relatively new organization, made from many other old time screw up organizations, we should expect more from them. Just like TSA. What a waste of my tax dollars.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 12:06:58 AM
"Nanny, open borders is a demo position." Unfortunately it is also a republican position as lots of businesses, including big ones, benefit from labor making less than minimun wage and with no benefits and are unable to complain about it. I don't see Bush helping to close the gate. On the contrary, the plans for the North American Union are being laid out. How about a wave of 50 million mexicans on the border at 11:59 pm the day before the union goes into effect.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 12:08:10 AM
The only thing I consistently hear TSA being good at is fondling passengers and stealing, uh, confiscating "suspect" articles like digital cameras, etc. Same stupid people, much broader powers.
 
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EW3    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 6:35:35 AM
While I'm not thrilled with Bush's performance on this issue, the dems really are giving away the show. And if it's big business that wants all this cheap labor to come over the border, then the dems must be in big business's pocket. Whenever it comes time for a vote in congress to actually do something about illegal immigration, the dems vote against it. Talk is cheap, follow the votes. link Before the US became a "give away" country and illegal aliens (aka invaders) didn't get all these government services, we didn't have such a big problem with them. Now we're not even supposed to use the term "illegal alien", they (the PC crowd) use the term undocumented alien.
 
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AlbanyRifles    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 9:39:46 AM
Actually, we had a comparable problem in the early 1950s with illegal immigrants. Congress screamed at the INS to do something about it. So the INS did massive round ups.....and registered folks and got them green cards. No more illegals. My thoughts on all of this..... Okay, can we REALLY send 12 Million + "home"? The logistics are about overwhelming. And how do you deal with the 5, 3 and 1 year old who were born hear to illegal parents who are now citizens? I believe we should have a set date. If you were hear before XYZ date, you pay a fine, pay back taxes and get put on the road to citizenship. After that, good bye. Really increase border security...yes, that will mean increased taxes but you get what you pay for. If you want cheap, plentiful food you will have to deal with migrant labor. A fact I see everyday here in rural Virginia.
 
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hist_ed    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 12:46:19 PM
"I believe we should have a set date. If you were hear before XYZ date, you pay a fine, pay back taxes and get put on the road to citizenship. " And then we do it again in ten years? And then again ten years after that? We tried that once in the 1980s. We should also remember there are millions here who played by the rules to emigrate. If we keep offering amnesty to those that didn't why would anyone want to go through the hassle of doing the right thing and following the law? They would just look like suckers.
 
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AlbanyRifles    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 12:55:39 PM
I said nothing about amnesty. I said pay a fine and back taxes. And no one said the road to citizenship has to be the same length as it is for others who entered legally. Oh, and if you don't opt for citizenship? Return to country of origin. And please answer my question on what do we do with the children of those who entered illegally who were born here and are therefore US citizens?
 
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Tiber1    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 3:48:38 PM
They are citizens, but their parents must now go home and their kids can request permission for them to come back. Just like every other legal citizen can.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:while the government monitors our calls and emails...   8/2/2006 5:51:22 PM
My point of this post has been lost, does anyone else feel just a bit of outrage that the NSA, CIA, FBI and even the military can listen and read our stuff with impunity, without even having to go through the secret intelligence court, and that big corporations bend over backwards to help them but no one can stop some barely literate peasant from anywhere in the world, whose already weakened by thirst and hunger and hundreds of miles of walking, from crossing our border? Where are the priorities? ing W.
 
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