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Subject: Military potential of Canada
Maple man    9/29/2004 11:24:26 PM
Could Canada become a military giant,and if yes,HOW?
 
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Ehran       11/13/2007 2:17:20 PM
hence my not so infrequent comments about americans and canadians only being superficially similar creatures.  we share some but by no means all of the core values and there are many differences in how we think. 
 
if you think canadians are strange left wing creatures you are just gonna love the europeans who often look at us the way we look at americans and think "nice enough folks but rather loopy".
 
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dirtykraut       11/16/2007 7:09:27 PM
It really depends. Take France's banning of wearing religious symbols and hijabs etc in public. I find that to be on the extreme side of right wing.
 
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Ehran       11/19/2007 2:06:00 PM
not to say they don't have their moments though that one i think had more to do with french nationalism than being right wing. 
 
 
 
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Lawman       11/23/2007 5:35:47 PM
Canada's best potential would probably be to just copy over the Aussie concepts, probably not even scaled up much. A series of combined arms battlegroups, each built around a reinforced infantry battalion, would be a good way to go. The Air Force would operate its fighter units in direct support of these battlegroups, more like the US Marines do. I would look very seriously at getting a good number of new Sikorsky S-92 (CH-148 Cyclone, minus the ASW gear) transports, replacing the old Hueys, and add in a good number of ARH-70s, since they're being built partly in Canada anyway. The Navy should be getting more subs, and some large RoRo vessels, to allow for an entire battlegroup to be transported. Many of the new purchases by the government seem to be going the right way, and represent a very welcome change.
 
A Superpower? No. A pretty darned well armed country, with an excellent range of capabilities, and a lot of potential? Yes.
 
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Ehran       11/26/2007 2:47:17 PM
canada has about 50% more pop'n than aus and i think per capita more money to throw around so the makings of a decent sized force is there if the political will can be mustered.
 
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Nasty German Idiot       11/29/2007 6:00:57 PM
No matter what Canada does, they will always need to rely on the U.S., and it will always be the U.S. interest to keep a potential enemy out of Canada.  Its just smart of Canada to watch their spending and benefit from the overwhelming budget of the United States.  And they do share their rescources with you, dont they ?
 
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Ehran       11/30/2007 12:48:46 PM
the thing about being dependant on another country for defense etc is that you don't have the ability to forge your own course or respond effectively when your interests diverge.  the arctic ice going away is opening up a hefty can of worms right now for instance with the americans wanting to consider the northwest passage an international seaway and canada saying it's an internal waterway of ours. 
 
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Maple man       11/30/2007 5:57:43 PM
see, the problem with us relying on the U.S. is that the U.S. cannot go on like this forever. They are running an enormous deficit that will in my opinion be what crumbles their empire. If we rely too much on them we too will suffer. Canada has to become more self sufficent and slowly build, eventually we could be a very powerful nation militarily. Economically we already are. You see, the Americans are very good at what they do but so am I and I could not survive in this world if I were in debt farther than I could get myself out. It's hard to properly explain but they can only print so much money before it becomes worthless, and to me that is when things will turn for the worse. So if Canada plans for the rainy day that will no doubt come if the U.S. keeps up with the crazy spending, we will be the nation that many countries may turn too. We have the resources, we only lack in manpower due to our smaller population. We at least are not quite as high on nourselves as our neighbors to the south, example Ann Coulter, check this out link if you cannot get it to work simply type in Ann Coulter Canada and you should be able to find the video I'm talking about. It's mentality like hers that is making the U.S. a target for terrorism.
 
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Ehran       12/3/2007 6:40:42 PM

 And they do share their rescources with you, dont they ?


it's far more a case of us sharing our resources with them which is why i find it so funny when the doofus types start talking about shutting down trade with canada over the border security or whatever it is that annoys them.
 
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