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Subject: Canadian Numbers in Afghanistan Missions
Griffin    12/22/2007 12:03:38 AM
Here is some information from the DND web site viewers may be interested in, regarding the Cdn. mission to Afghanistan. Operation ATHENA: The Canadian Forces contribution to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF): approximately 2,500 CF personnel Overall, 2,500 CF personnel support the ISAF mission. CF personnel deployed as part of OP ATHENA comprise the following units (all figures approximate): A Battle Group in Kandahar, primarily the 3rd Battalion, Royal 22e Régiment (3 R22eR) from the 5e Group-brigade mécanisé du Canada (5 GBMC), which includes: Soldiers from the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Battalion, Royal 22e Régiment based out of CFB Valcartier, as well as various Reserve units; An engineer squadron from 5e Régiment du génie du combat (5 RGC) in Valcartier; An artillery battery from 5e Régiment d?artillerie légère du Canada (5 RALC) in Valcartier; An armoured reconnaissance troop, from The Royal Canadian Dragoons (RCD) in Petawawa and 12e Régiment blindé du Canada (12 RBC) in Valcartier; and A Leopard tank squadron from the Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians) (LdSH(RC)) in Edmonton, Alberta; A Tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (TUAV) unit comprised primarily of personnel from 438 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (438 ETAH) based in St-Hubert, Quebec, and members from 5 RALC in Valcartier; Health Service Support (HSS) personnel at the Multinational Medical Unit (MMU) at Kandahar Airfield comprised of personnel from 5e Ambulance de campagne (5 AMB C) in Valcartier, 1 Canadian Field Hospital (1 Cdn Fd Hosp) in Petawawa, and other Health Services units from across Canada; About 300 CF members with the National Command Element (NCE) at Kandahar Airfield. The NCE is primarily composed of personnel from 5 GBMC in Valcartier; About 300 CF members with the National Support Element (NSE) in Kandahar, primarily from the 5e Bataillon des service du Canada (5 BNS) in Valcartier; About 30 CF members with the Multi-National Brigade (MNB) Headquarters including Canadian Deputy Commander, Brigadier-General Marquis Hainse are assisting British Major-General Jacko Page in accomplishing his mission and exercising command and control over the MNB Regional Command (South) in Afghanistan; In Kabul, about 50 CF personnel at ISAF Headquarters, 15 personnel with a smaller NSE Detachment and 15 personnel working at the Strategic Advisory Team (SAT) who work closely with at the Canadian Embassy; 250 CF members with the Theatre Support Element (TSE) in Southwest Asia. The Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) Since August 2005, a Canadian PRT has operated in Kandahar City, where it will remain until February 2009. The PRT brings together elements from the Canadian Forces (CF), Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada (DFAIT), the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA), Corrections Services Canada (CSC) and civilian police led by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) in an integrated Canadian effort known as the ?Whole of Government? approach. Approximately 250 personnel are based at the PRT site at Camp Nathan Smith in Kandahar City under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Robert Chamberlain. The PRT helps reinforce the authority of the Afghan government in Kandahar Province, assisting in the stabilization and development of the region. It monitors security, promotes Afghan government policies and priorities with local authorities, and facilitates security sector reforms. The PRT military component comprises personnel, drawn largely from Land Forces Quebec Area (LFQA). The PRT includes: The PRT Commander?s Tactical Headquarters Group, which provides protection and mobility to the PRT Commander and his staff; In order to allow the PRT to enhance the reconstruction effort, an Infantry Company from primarily 3 R22eR is currently providing security to the various PRT detachments involved with various projects outside of Kandahar City. This company from Quebec also provides a quick reaction force for Kandahar City and the vital aspect of defence and security tasks at the PRT Camp; Military project managers (military engineers) enhancing the PRT?s capability to manage quick impact reconstruction and development projects; A Civil-Military Cooperation (CIMIC) capability from LFQA; A Military Police Platoon consisting of members primarily from 5e Peloton de police militaire (5 PPM) in Valcartier; Health and medical support from 5 AMB C; Service and support elements drawn from across Canada; and Other specialized elements from various CF units across Canada. Operational Mentor Liaison Teams (OMLT) The Canadian Operational Mentor Liaison Teams (OMLT), commanded by Col Stephane Lafaut, advises, mentors and assists the senior leadership of the Afghanistan National Army (ANA) in their capacity building. This professional development initiative enables the ANA to help secure peace and stability in Afghanistan and extend the legitimate authority of the Governme
 
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Jungle-Man       1/16/2008 12:38:34 PM
Maybe its not a good idea to post such detailed information on our currently deployed troops on a public forum. Loose lips and all that.
 
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bob the brit       1/16/2008 3:22:52 PM

Maybe its not a good idea to post such detailed information on our currently deployed troops on a public forum. Loose lips and all that.


It's posted on a publicly accesible website [canadian DND], what's the promblem with posting it further? Having read through the above, I see nothing that is so detailed as to be used against the canadian forces in afghanistan. The other side knows they're there, they don't have to trawl through forums to find out info like this. Maybe if it was disclosed the exact location of varying groups/units then issues could arise, but the exact role/mission outline/target/methods/etc. of the above groups/units isn't mentioned [for good reason].
 
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Griffin       1/19/2008 4:19:52 PM
Rest assured that if this was non-publicly available detail, I would not post it here or any other public accessible site. 
 
 
 
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Herald12345    Sometimes democracies are too helpful to the bandits with our openess.   1/19/2008 4:53:00 PM
Just a thought.

Herald

 
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neutralizer       11/21/2008 4:06:35 AM
 
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neutralizer       11/21/2008 4:09:01 AM

How long is the tour for the guys in the battle group, specifically the battery?

 
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Griffin       11/22/2008 1:10:02 AM
Tours for most of the combat troops is 6-months per tour.  Many are on 3rd or 4th tours.   Would expect that members from the artillery regiments are similar to infantry, but not positive on that one.  One other thing to note is that quite often it is the combat support personnel that see multiple tours due to the shortage of skilled trades personnel due to the run down of the forces under the Liberal Party while in government.
 
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