Quite true, the joint was a problem, The shanano was also sunk on the way to fitting out. It had no water tight measures in place. The shanano was going to be a large waste of money anyway. It was not fast enough and was to be used as a repair depo at sea.
Even wth this fault, no other ship in the world could have sustained the damage that her sister ships took by torpedos and keep going.
The watertight doors not fitted to Shinano is contested. A poorly trained fatalistic crew did not help either, but Musashi with a fully trained and highly motivated crew, was hit only six times by Mark 13s which were even punier than the three Mark 14's at that same jointline. We can confirm three Mark 14s which hit Shinano. On the Musashi we can confirm six torpedo hits None of the bombs we dropped on her deck armor did squat as the 1000 poun ders all burst outside the belt not pentrating the vbibble or the Musashb citadel at all.
Cool at last a discussion topic instead of a torent of insults at me to make yourself look better.
The " if it survives, it's a battleship" remark is flipent, meant as humour, you are spending to much time tring to make me look stupid.
I have issued no facts, just discussion. You are like the site bully that gets very uppity if people dont agree with you.
I have read all the site's you mentioned and I have read historic battles, between ships.
The most important thing to remember is reality is seldom the same as what is on paper.
The Iowa was a very good ship. I have no arguement with that. The 16/50 was a very good gun with a very good projectile.
That does not change this, unless you can penetrate a magazine, you can not easily sink a ship by gunfire only. You said the Iowa would win hands down and that is not the case. You can not gaurantee this
If the two ships were to face off at 20k and shot at each other, now that would be a fight.
I am heading off for a few days, so while you come up with some new ways to insult me, I will set up some "numbers" and get back you.
Sorry about the spelling, don't always check.
I have been fascinated by the amount of torpedoes that the Hornet took and 400 5" rounds. But must admit have not done much study into it.
What about the USS Laffey, great career, Lucky too.
Masuhi was hit by around 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs, there are no confirmed numbers for hits and as the wreck has never been found (the Japanese will not allow a search) there can be no confirmation.
The question originally asked was: Yamato vs Iowa "How would this fight turn out". Now unless the Iowa could fly ,drop bombs or Torpedoes, your comment "hello, the Yamatos were junk" has no substance.
They put 400 rounds of 5'' shells into the hornet and it did not sink. The Yamato and the Iowa could shoot at each other all day and not sink each other.
With out a hit to a magazine, projectile hits are not going to sink a battleship. Within her projected immunity zone Iowa can if she hits yamato's side armour correctly, penetrate the ship, but not necessarily penetrate Yamatos magazine. At this range 21k to 32k Iowa can not penetrate Yamato's deck. How ever Yamato can penetrate Iowas deck and side Armour, yes I know about the Iowas very good STS decapping Armour, but be assured a projectile weighing over 3000lbs traveling at over the speed of sound still does a lot of damage.
The Iowa has better fire control, but within 30k and at probably the 22-23k the real action would start this may make little difference.
I am not taking side's on ether ship. I would love to see these two ships put to the test.
I still believe, if it is a shell for shell contest, that only shear American patriotism would say the the Yamato did not have a chance. If the Americans had believed that the Iowa was good enough to take on the Yamato, they would not have started building the Montana class to combat the Yamato danger.
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