Cool at last a discussion topic instead of a torent of insults at me to make yourself look better.

The " if it survives, it's a battleship" remark is flipent, meant as humour, you are spending to much time tring to make me look stupid. 

I have issued no facts, just discussion. You are like the site bully that gets very uppity if people dont agree with you.

I have read all the site's you mentioned and I have read historic battles, between ships.

The most important thing to remember is reality is seldom the same as what is on paper.

The Iowa was a very good ship. I have no arguement with that. The 16/50 was a very good gun with a very good projectile.

That does not change this, unless you can penetrate a magazine, you can not easily sink a ship by gunfire only. You said the Iowa would win hands down and that is not the case. You can not gaurantee this

If the two ships were to face off at 20k and shot at each other, now that would be a fight.

I am heading off for a few days, so while you come up with some new ways to insult me, I will set up some "numbers" and get back you.  

Sorry about the spelling, don't always check.

I have been fascinated by the amount of torpedoes that the Hornet took and 400 5" rounds. But must admit have not done much study into it.

What about the USS Laffey, great career, Lucky too.

Masuhi was hit by around 19 torpedoes and 17 bombs, there are no confirmed numbers for hits and as the wreck has never been found (the Japanese will not allow a search) there can be no confirmation.

The question originally asked was: Yamato vs Iowa "How would this fight turn out". Now unless the Iowa could fly ,drop bombs or Torpedoes, your comment "hello, the Yamatos were junk" has no substance.

They put 400 rounds of 5'' shells into the hornet and it did not sink. The Yamato and the Iowa could shoot at each other all day and not sink each other. 

With out a hit to a magazine, projectile hits are not going to sink a battleship. Within her projected immunity zone Iowa can if she hits yamato's side armour correctly, penetrate the ship, but not necessarily penetrate Yamatos magazine. At this range 21k to 32k Iowa can not penetrate Yamato's deck. How ever Yamato can penetrate Iowas deck and side Armour, yes I know about the Iowas very good STS decapping Armour, but be assured a projectile weighing over 3000lbs traveling at over the speed of sound still does a lot of damage. 

The Iowa has better fire control, but within 30k and at probably the 22-23k the real action would start this may make little difference.

I am not taking side's on ether ship. I would love to see these two ships put to the test.

I still believe, if it is a shell for shell contest, that only shear American patriotism would say the the Yamato did not have a chance. If the Americans had believed that the Iowa was good enough to take on the Yamato, they would not have started building the Montana class to combat the Yamato danger.

At last, Thank you Herald12345 for information that is clear and discriptive. just stopped at a cafe to check, so not a lot of time. Shan Ano, Pull your head in, (Indian idic), it is NOT JAPANESE. Shan is chinese! If you want to argue with my Japanese Wife and My Chinese mother good luck to you. But I am sending them to your house to sort it out. Ha Ha.

JFKY, it is nice to see you have thick skin, I can give you a little stick and you can take it. Remeber you dont have to insult peoples intelligence to be smarter than them.

Will get back to you guys with some numbers soon. (on Holiday)

But Please think of this!

Iowa ,by far had the best fire control system. No arguement. That does not mean Yamato can not hit the target. They just had a different way of doing it.

I play golf to a single figure handicap. I once played a guy who was 86 and he beat me on stroke play by 6 shots. I had the big range and on paper I should have kicked his arse. But all he did was get it straight and close, nothing fancy. He just did the job.I can see you going "the IOWA would be straight and close".

In a Naval battle there is no absolutes. Do not Discount the japanese because their fire control tech was not the same as the Americans. The Iowas training and results are well documented, How do you know that with all their training and all the japanese readyness for a battleship stand off that they could not hit the target. You dont know their training, you dont know how good they were at using the tech they had. On paper the POW and the Hood should have disposed of the bismark.( I have read the excuses). They did not. They fired several salvos before the bismark responded, but when the bismark responded , it was effective( they knew their equipment)

Historically, and JFKY has said that conflict did not start at 37k-40k. Historically battle would start at under 30k. THE IOWA could not penetrate the Yamatos deck armour under this range.