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Bluewings RE:LaFayette frigates 5/8/2005 1:27:26 AM

Horizon Class look the business . Fire Power and Survivibility are quite remarquable . link The first French Horizon frigate, named Forbin, was officially launched at DCN's site in Lorient on March 10, 2005 . Cheers .

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Iano RE:LaFayette frigates 5/8/2005 12:43:30 PM

Slightly off topic, but since the original post mentioned the Perry class frigates (FFG 7 / OHP I believe), well I thought I'd ask why on earth those things have a 5 inch gun mounted amidships? Surely, what an awkward place for a gun! Imagine, going to use the thing, you'd have to steam right past something to get a shot off at it. Making you a larger target, and if you wanted to close with that target quickly in a straight line, your gun would be unusable against it. Also why do American warships have 5 inch mountings at the stern?! How much use can they be, again you'd need to steam right past something to fire a "broadside", unless you intend reversing towards the target! Ian

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Iano RE:LaFayette frigates 5/8/2005 12:44:27 PM

I just never saw what was wrong with a good old Vickers four-and-a-half on the bow.

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kph RE:The Visby 5/9/2005 3:09:54 AM

"The Swedes are working on a "Visby stealth class" Frigate tho. Think it was called "Ytstridsfartyg NY" or something like that. " How do you pronounce that name, btw? It should be interesting; any link? I had always thought that a frigate-sized "Visby" would be a formidable platform offering stealth both above and under water, and is eminently suitable for ASW, AAW and ASuW. There would be some technical issues in having such a large hull in GRP. Also waterjet propulsion of such a large hull could present a significant challenge. However, these problems are not technically insurmountable. IMV, cost will be much higher than a similar steel construction and hence, will be a major constraint to wider application. This is probably the principal reason why the Visby and similar platforms are not more widely adopted.

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EW3 RE:The Visby 5/9/2005 4:14:56 AM

"Ytstridsfartyg NY" or something like that. " How do you pronounce that name, btw? I have no idea, but if the boys from Oz buy it, they will nickname it farty. ;)

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kph RE:The Visby 5/9/2005 4:26:31 AM

Farty indeed!! I like it; it would be in true Oz tradition..lol!!

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Bluewings RE:The Visby 5/9/2005 11:04:12 AM

Visby : link Cheers .

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kph RE:The Visby - Bluewings 5/9/2005 8:27:02 PM

Thanks, Bluewings, but we're talking about "Ytstridsfartyg NY"

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Bluewings RE:The Visby - Bluewings 5/10/2005 1:13:59 AM

and what is "Ytstridsfartyg NY" ?? Cheers .

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fitz RE:LaFayette frigates - Iano 5/10/2005 2:25:27 AM

The Perry's have a 76mm gun, not a 5-inch and it is mounted where it is for several reasons; 1. It is principally an anti-aircraft weapon, a role in which its location is little handicap. The field of fire is quite good for AA work. The gun in the original design BTW was a twin 35mm Oerlikon, not the 76mm OTOBreda, which gives you some idea of the origins for its location. 2. The gun is far from the primary weapon on these ships. #1 is the helicopters, #2 was the missile launcher (now being removed). The AA gun was decidedly down the list of priorities. The Ticonderoga and (now nearly extinct) Spruance classes have 5-inch single mount guns fore and aft. The DDG-51's have only a single mount forward. USS Vincennes, a Ticonderoga class CG had the misfortune while engaging Iranian gunboats during the Iran-Iraq "tanker war" of having her forward gun jam in mid-battle. She was able to swing around and engage her opponents with the aft gun, however and continue the action. Redundancy my friend. The Spruance 2-gun requirement actually stemmed from the needs for shore bombardment, with the second gun being primarily a backup in case one went down. During the Falkland's conflict roughly half of the artillery support planned for the British attack on the Argentine garrison at Goose Green was supposed to come from a RN frigate with a single 4.5-inch gun. A short way into the bombardment the gun broke down and the British soldiers on the ground had to make due with a substantial reduction in the planned fire support. This almost certainly led to more casualties than would otherwise be the case.

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