Military History | How To Make War | Wars Around the World Rules of Use How to Behave on an Internet Forum
Surface Forces Discussion Board
   Return to Topic Page
Subject: The China Syndrome & the British Navy
human7    7/10/2004 10:00:29 AM
If China launches an invasion of Taiwan, the United States would most certainly react. (This whole notion of ambiguity is American PR.) The question is would the United Kingdom would the stand idly by or would they help to repel the Chinks?
 
Quote    Reply

Show Only Poster Name and Title     Newest to Oldest
Pages: PREV  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16   NEXT
Bluewings    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/1/2005 9:29:22 PM
And me I say that the Human race would survive a Total Nuclear holocaust . But that 's not the point . Nobody wants to go back to bows and slings ... The point is to turn China into a massive friendly supermarket and to keep them away of driving "drastic" Wars . Cheers .
 
Quote    Reply

Herc the Merc    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/2/2005 12:25:19 PM
Bluewings, you underestimate India & nukes for some reason, India has fought several bloody rebellions & wars in a very brutal manner- some on their own people. Also India is soon to test its 3000km IRBM, if Delhi was toasted, I doubt that the Indians wouldn't retaliate- in fact Beijing would be wiped out real quick + the software industry would wipe out all software cities in China. It is China that is more afraid of India(India attacked China in 1962-it allows Dalai Lama)I do not understand why you underestimate India's ability to draw blood, they even told Nixon to piss off in their 1971 war(I think they actually sent an old British carrier to attack USS Enterprise if USA intervened in now Bangladesh)- in 1999 they dislodged the Pak intruders in Kasmir(some of the attacks by the Indians were ..well extremely brutal) and in 2002 they were willing to attack Pakistan (risking nuclear war)& antagonizing the US hunting for Bin Laden. As far as destroying China- That is very easy, the population(ie the elite) are grouped in major cities- A few 100 nukes could destroy those cities, & a few 100 more the countryside. Whats left can be wiped out, but why bother-- The USA is same area as China, but less dense, if anything USA will fare better in a nuclear exchange then any country in the world. A billion Chinese lumped together and 300million Americans dispersed- who survives??
 
Quote    Reply

Bluewings    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/2/2005 5:58:51 PM
You are making good points Merc . But keep in mind that I WASN 'T the one who said that if Delhi would get wiped out , "they would drop on theirs knees and beg" . Nevertheless , I do not underestimate India . I would rather say that I may overestimate China ... I don 't believe that China is affraid of India . Actually , I would say that Chineses are affraid of no-one . They simply know they don 't have the mean YET to give US the finger and retake Taiwan . On a different level and if I wanna be really honest ,I am more worried about USA being responsible for the Third World War rather than China . Playing the "World Cops" when nobody ask you to do so is dangerous and can lead to great morale instability and Hate . The American Man/Woman is not worse than any other Man/Woman on Earth but never before the US popularity has been soooo low . During the cold War , the US was "The Defender of the Faith" , when it is now seen as a bully by more than half of the World . WHY ? Cheers .
 
Quote    Reply

Herc the Merc    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/2/2005 6:49:30 PM
Well the US is definetly in a corner per worldwide opinion polls, only 2 countries definitively like Bush -Phillipines & India. But being #1 means being disliked & Bush's outspoken seemingly "cowboy" approach gets everybody confused. In fact what Bush did is simply invade Iraq, a big deal in FRance & Russia, but a lot of people simply didn't care. The reality is that the real dangers in Iran & Pakistan & NK are still there. So this "cowboy" approach is very limited, but everyone makes noise. I think the world(that is critical of America) views US as wayward and errant & oil hungry - not a bully. As far as US causing the 3rd world war- I doubt it- how would that happen?? All US did was take Iraq- Iraq had no alliances or friends- geo-politically it could be a very smart move - practically it may not work out. If you notice USA does not attack Iran or NK- what does that say- obviously WMD was never the issue.
 
Quote    Reply

Bluewings    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/3/2005 2:39:39 AM
Quote : "As far as US causing the 3rd world war- I doubt it- how would that happen??" http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/crisis/2003/1010oilpriceeuro.htm If NOBODY want to use dollars anymore to buy oil but Euros or Yen , the US will have to buy Euros or Yen with all the markets going down , USA assets becoming worthless (Buy Boeing for 3 Billions Euros now ! bet on Amazon.fr NOW !). You can imagine the nightmare scenario ... Or the US can go to War to defend its currency ... Cheers .
 
Quote    Reply

Herc the Merc    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/3/2005 11:48:47 AM
The recent EC crisis will ensure dollar strength. Also cheaper dollar makes US products cheaper. Demand for US products will always be there. PLus a poor US economy will not necessarily lead to war-Germany did not start war due to weak economy. IMHO there will be no world war like WW2.
 
Quote    Reply

Yimmy    RE:True Chinese psyche- Bluewings   6/3/2005 12:06:13 PM
In my opinion the Great war was the last major war in Europe. Oh wait.
 
Quote    Reply

Herc the Merc    RE:True Chinese psyche- Yimmy   6/3/2005 4:41:37 PM
Do u have any info on PLAN ships or subs operating(more like occasionally visiting) near UK?
 
Quote    Reply

Heorot    RE:Dollar vs Euro   6/4/2005 6:59:40 PM
There is a sound economic reasaon for Russia taking the Euro for oil instead of the dollar. Most of Russias external trade is with the EU. Selling oil for Euros means no currency conversion is needed to pay for its European purchases. So it makes more sense. However, while the threat of a switch is there, its a political ace for Putin in his dealings with the US.
 
Quote    Reply

The Lizard King    RE:The China Syndrome & the British Navy - The Real Issue is Lacking in this Thread.   6/20/2005 12:30:20 PM
In my opinion, this thread does not touch upon the real issue. -The Brits, must ask themselves "do they want a non-Anglo nation as top dog, calling the shots for the next couple of hundred years?"
 
Quote    Reply
PREV  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16   NEXT



 Latest
 News
 
 Most
 Read
 
 Most
 Commented
 Hot
 Topics