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Subject: USN Buys Austrailian
DragonReborn    2/12/2004 2:53:39 AM
www.military.com Can this be considered a Littoral Ship? Is this the way the USN can quickly bild a littoral capacity? ===================================================================== New ship sails through Navy?s early testing The Australian-built HSV 2 Swift is being considered by the Navy as a possible solution to its need for a high-speed combat ship. Four diesel engines drive four water jets that give the aluminum-hulled Swift a top speed of 53 mph. It was tied up at Naval Station Norfolk Tuesday after a demonstration. NORFOLK ? If it?s a new ship the Navy wants, it may not get any better than this. It?s fast, with a top speed of 53 mph. It?s cheap, relatively speaking, at $60 million to $100 million ? about the cost of two F/A-18 Super Hornet jets. It took just 10 months to build, a nanosecond in shipbuilders? schedules. It takes only 40 folks to operate it, very appealing to a Navy seeking smaller crews. And get this, sailors: It?s aluminum and doesn?t need paint. Meet the high-speed vessel Swift, a catamaran from Australia that is pitching its versatility and maneuverability to the Navy and the Army. Flying through the lower Chesapeake Bay and into the slick calm Atlantic on a demonstration run Tuesday, the Swift is being eyed by the Navy as a way to carry 200 to 300 troops, 600 tons of cargo and a helicopter or two through relatively shallow waters. Its twin hulls piercing the waves, the Swift created enough motion Tuesday to sicken some novice riders aboard, earning it the nickname the ?vomit comet.? But the ship made it to the Chesapeake Light 13 miles off shore in 60 minutes; most Navy ships leaving Norfolk?s port take 2½ hours to the light. Navy equipment, from unmanned helicopters to submersibles and specialized boats, that are being considered for use on the Swift fill the experiemental ship?s mission deck on Tuesday, demonstrating the types of gear the Swift can carry. It?s bridge crew numbers just five or six people, compared to 12 to 15 on most Navy ships. No one mans the engine room. The chief engineer is on the bridge. ?I love it,? Cmdr. Mark Sakaguchi, commanding officer of the Swift, said as he finished docking at the Norfolk Naval Station, without help from a tug. A chief petty officer, using a joystick to control the craft?s four water jets, maneuvered the 320-foot long ship to the pier without so much as a nudge. Lookouts using laser-guided range finders, television cameras and radios assured a smooth arrival. ?I think this is everything the Navy is looking for,? Sakaguchi said. However, he warned that the demands on the crew are high. No one can take vacation or time off during the ship?s time at sea. Nor can the crew be expected to work endless hours, he said. Petty Officer 1st class Yosef Seals scans the horizon as the HSV 2 Swift cruises at more than 40 knots off Virginia Beach Tuesday. The Swift requires a total crew of 40 and a bridge crew of five or six. That?s why the Navy is experimenting with rotating two crews to the ship every four months, to allow one to remain ashore for training and rest. Sakaguchi, commanding officer of one crew based out of Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base in Virginia Beach, will turn over command of the ship in another few weeks to a crew based at Ingleside, Texas, home of the mine warfare group. While the ship is assigned to Little Creek, the Navy is using the Swift to experiment with everything from SEAL team mini-subs to unmanned helicopters. The ship?s cavernous 28,000-square-foot mission deck can handle four M1-A1 Abrams battle tanks, a variety of amphibious landing vehicles or a combination of mine-hunting small boats. Robert Clifford is owner of Incat Tasmania, which has built 61 of the catamarans of various sizes during the past 25 years. He?s putting together the latest hull design of about 350 feet, which he hopes the Army and Navy like as they decide between the catamaran or a single-hull ship for a littoral combat ship. ?I have no idea how many they would order,? Clifford said as he rode the Swift. ?There are no requests for proposals.? The Swift can carry 200 to 300 troops, 600 tons of cargo and a helicopter or two through relatively shallow waters. While assigned to Little Creek, the Navy is using the Swift to experiment with SEAL team mini-subs and unmanned helicopters. However, industry and military officials who were aboard Tuesday said they expect the Army to be ready within another month to place an order for a dozen of the vessels. The Navy?s decision is expected later. Clifford?s company has recently joined Bollinger Shipyard Inc. of Lockport, La., which hopes to build the ships in the United States. The Swift is an offspring of the high speed vessel Joint Venture which the Army, Navy and Marine Corps have used in the past two years. About the same size, the Swift offers better crew comforts, such as a larg
 
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Ex98C    RE:USN Buys Austrailian-GF   2/12/2004 9:39:05 PM
:laughs: you mean there is something in Washington besides Boeing and Microsoft?
 
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gf0012-aus    RE:USN Buys Austrailian-GF   2/12/2004 9:43:02 PM
OMG that Bill Gates has got a monster house! I could not believe the size of it, it's obscene! Nice city Seattle, could quite happily live there for a while. Very laid back, very aussie like (or maybe it was just the people I met!) /thread hijack off
 
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gf0012-aus    HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff    2/13/2004 1:16:49 AM
(Source: US Navy; issued Feb. 11, 2004) NORFOLK, Va. --- The Navy is experimenting with a second aluminum-hull High Speed Vessel, HSV 2 Swift. Swift is the successor to HSV 1 Joint Venture and brings new transformational capabilities to the Navy and Marine Corps team. At 321 feet, Swift is faster than most ships, with a top speed of almost 50 knots. The catamaran hulls draw only about 11 feet of water, making the ship ideal for missions in shallow coastal waters. Swift slipped out of Naval Station Norfolk for a demonstration in the Chesapeake Bay and Atlantic Ocean Feb. 10. Aboard were about 30 commercial enterprise and command representatives who explained a wide array of new systems that are or may be installed aboard Swift. Systems range from combat vehicles, small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles for targeting and reconnaissance, to unmanned submersible vehicles for mine hunting. ?There are two primary visions for this ship,? said Lt. Cmdr. Daniel Harris, the Ingleside-based crew?s executive officer. ?One is Mine Warfare Command and Support, and the other has a special warfare/Marine expeditionary-type role. That?s where the two crews come in. The submarine community has proven that two crews has worked for many years, and we?ll be putting it to the test here in the surface community.? That allows a higher operating tempo for the ship. Two 40-person crews are maintained, one stationed at Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek, Va., the other at Naval Station Ingleside, Texas. The ship?s systems feature many automated controls, including a docking system that enables Swift to tie up without the aid of tugs in winds of less than 50 knots. Many Swift crew members were impressed with the ship?s capabilites. ?I was in awe over all the technology,? said Interior Communications Technician 2nd Class (SW) Matthew Ferguson, Swift crew member. ?I like the fact you don?t need to touch much in order for Swift to go, and that it doesn?t require a huge crew.? ?This was a culture shock when I came on board,? said Chief Hospital Corpsman (FMF) Michael Lackrey, Swift?s independent duty corpsman. ?I was so used to watertight hatches and basic military things. I love it here, though. The crew size is very small, so it?s easy to get to know everyone. You also have to work out of rate, to know a little bit of something in case someone gets hurt or sick. You have to step in and take over.? An aluminum, bead-blasted flight deck eliminates most of the non-skid paint products and recurring maintenance, and stainless steel tie-down fittings for aircraft are a first. Also, Swift is not painted the traditional haze gray, but she has been treated on the exterior with a blasting process that provides a haze gray appearance. Swift deployed on its maiden voyage only 11 days after delivery Aug. 15, and provided support in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Swift is providing a platform for the Navy to explore concepts, capabilities and military utility associated with the Navy?s plans to build the Littoral Combat Ship. HSV is now testing modular technology, demonstrating endless possibilities for embarking payloads needed to accomplish missions for a variety of warfare areas. Swift fulfills the need for smaller, faster, reconfigurable, adaptable surface ships for the future Navy and provides the ability to fulfill a wide variety of missions anytime, anywhere. -ends-
 
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Aussiegunner    RE:HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff    2/13/2004 4:19:11 AM
Are there any plans to provide these ships with a true "over the beach" capability? I was thinking, one could carry or tow a cat hull- mounted pontoon wharf for the the landing. That way if shallow water port facilities didn't exist, the Cat fleet could still come and go from the landing area. It would be great for resupply of Australian forces, operating a couple of thousand clicks from home in an island environment. Also, are there any plans to provide a degree of stealth for future designs? They would in all likelihood be too fast to be hit by subs with torpedos, but would still be vulnerable to missiles in their present form. With 300 troops on board, a steatlhy topside would be a good idea, in my book.
 
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gf0012-aus    RE:HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff    2/13/2004 6:00:47 AM
The Austal design has got a bow and a stern ramp, so is a little more flexible - hence the USMC and Army interest in it. USN is interested in the INCAT design which is more fitting to their evolving needs
 
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fall out    RE:HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff - gf   2/17/2004 4:50:42 AM
how many are the americans proposing to purchase (roughly)?? how many (if at all) are we going to purchase? rough guess if you dont know exactly will do fine. ;)
 
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gf0012-aus    RE:HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff - gf   2/17/2004 6:43:19 PM
NFI. It seems as though at least 3, and there has been some inconsistent talk of up to 10. It gets blurry though as USN/USMC and US Army are looking at diff vessels - so diff orders. Anybody's guess at the moment.
 
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fall out    RE:HSV Swift Shows Its Stuff - gf   2/17/2004 11:24:58 PM
i wonder if they have to pay double for employee's wages in tasmania?! hehe. ;)
 
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