Pretty ship! I'd feel better if there were a couple of CIWS's topside though, and not just these Otto-Melara cannons for the front arc only!
It is also satisfying to read that La Royale got quality seaworthiness for her money this time around.

I still do not understand why the Europeans insist on calling their DDG's "frigates". Does it make them look any more cost-efficient in the eyes of the taxpayer?

I still don't understand why the US insist on calling their frigates DDG's. Does it make them look any more cost-efficient in the eyes of the taxpayer?

About compartmentalization, i think you are incorrect.

Is that so?

Forbin has 12 independent compartment and is designed to sail with several of them full of water, with a 15 meters breach

Arleigh Burke is a cellular honeycomb. 12 bulkheaded compartments? You've learned nothing from the days of the Titanic I see!.

Moreover,  technical  galleries are present on each side of the boat  to ensure two layers of protection against a direct hit.

Useless , you don't have the beam to take advantage of that OBSOLETE  type of passive damage defense.

Forbin has also two operational centers (main and emergency) and a very high degree of redundancy of each equipment. It can sail and defend itself with only 3 screens, and you can virtually operate weapon systems from anywhere one the ship.

I would expect a auxiliary damage control center.as a MINIMUM.  So what? A civil ship has that feature. Do you have damage control zones?

I can hardly see a compartmentalization issue!

I just explained it to you.

BW, the USS Cole suffered a fairly catastrophic hit at the waterline, not sure if it was 15m or not, and it didn't sink...and having read, at Wikipedia, that the reason that the UK withdrew from the Horizon Project was the differences in AAW focus I'm not sure you want to make the statement about the Forbin and area air defense.  The UK withdrew and produced the Type 45's because the French and Italians didn't see the need for an area air defense system, the Italians operating in the Mediterranean and the French operating with the CdG, so the area air defense was the Air Force or carrier's responsibility.  It led to the use of SAMPSON in the Type 45 and EMPAR for the French/Italian vessels.  I'm not sure that the Forbin is a true area air defense vessel a la the Burkes or the Type 45's. 

 

On second thought, I don't think you're right at all BW.  A 15m breach ought not sink a Burke...the Samuel B Roberts was breached in two main areas and kept afloat out of 7 areas available.  I don't see ho w 15m breach could produce such catastrophic flooding as to sink a Burke, just on the basis of having read about the damage to the Stark and to Roberts.  The Burke's being larger vessels, I'd imagine they could take proportionally greater damage.

 

Herald, you might be having a technical or translational disagreement with the fellow on "compartmentalization."  The idea that the Forbin has 12 areas for compartmentalization may be akin to the idea that the Oliver Hazard Perry's were 7 compartment ships, 7 main traverse bulkheads, allowing the ship to flood into 3 of them and, mayhap, stay afloat.  Certainly the Forbin has dozens of compartments, the statement may not mean 12 compartments, but 12 bulkheads, creating 11-12 major subdivisions....

 

Lastly I'm not sure if it's fair to criticize SYLVER for sinking a ship in an explosion...I'd imagine if you hit any VLS system and ignite the fuel and warheads present you will probably kill any vessel, US or French.

Herald, the majority of Soviet cruisers were ASW ships, not ASuW as you say.

An Arleigh Burke with a 15m breach in the hull will sink in less than 2 hours , not an Horizon .

We saw what did a rather small hole OVER the floating line on a ship like the USS Stark :

h*tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USS_Stark.jpg



An enemy radar lighting up an Arleigh Burke will see an Arleigh Burke ,
the same radar lighting up a Horizon will see a 25m long trawler with
the electronic signature of the trawler .



Horizon is not a point defense ship as a missinformed poster said . It
is the most capable European frigate , it can engage Air targets at up
to 70km , kill any ship at up to 180km and sink any subs ~included
double hull subs~ at up to 20km . It is extremely battle damage
resistant and has more redundancy than any other ship of its Class .



Gentlemen , don 't forget that Herald hates everything coming from
France ans is of course biaised to the highest degree . Remember that
he 's the only person to say that ASTER is crap but hey , he hasn 't
got a clue .



Cheers .