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Subject: How would you defend Taiwan from PRC attack
    10/5/2007 6:34:14 PM
Hey Folks, How an d with what equipment would yu use to defend Taiwan from a PRC attack with the oblective to limit the war to the two of them???? Sincerely, Keith
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/9/2007 12:25:46 AM








If Taiwan had nukes then there would be no chance of an invasion.







Apparently, your government doesn't want Taiwan to be rid of any chance of an invasion.



 



 




That much I do know - both Bush and Clinton have towed the line of "one China" as perscribed by Goldman Sachs and WalMart for their masters in Bejing - while mouthing adherence to the Taiwan Defense Act.  What gets me real mad is the insistance that we are fighting in Iraq to establish a democracy while the administration tells Taipei that they should not hold a free election to see if it wants independence from the mainland.

Some may see this as a smart policy but I see it as appeasement pure and simple.



The line towing goes back to Nixon.  When presidents lie and bend over...
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       10/9/2007 12:29:58 AM

 

hey Yelli,

 

If ROC had nukes the PRC would turn it into a waste land.

 

Sincerely,

 

Keith



Taiwan, not ROC.  And Taiwan should use germ and chem weapons, no one would be able to tell as everyone in China is chronically sick and the pollution is as bad as any gas cloud.
 
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Something Meatier       10/9/2007 6:24:52 AM
What gets me real mad is the insistance that we are fighting in Iraq to establish a democracy while the administration tells Taipei that they should not hold a free election to see if it wants independence from the mainland.
 
Here's an even clearer contradiction for ya: Supporting Croatia's and Bosnia's "right" to break away from Yugoslavia, but crushing Serb separatist movements within Croatia and Bosnia.  Wash, rinse, repeat in Kosovo...
 
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Softwar       10/9/2007 9:11:11 AM

 

hey Yelli,

 

If ROC had nukes the PRC would turn it into a waste land.

 

Sincerely,

 

Keith



MAD (mutually assured destruction) my friend has a way of keeping the hounds at bay.  Much like the North Korea thing - where the PRC exported nuclear technology to Kim or the Pakistan thing - where the PRC exported nuclear technology - the Boys in Beijing would be faced with a poison pill.  Reverse proliferation or the radioactive shoe on the other foot.
 
Try to take Taiwan - die.  Try to destroy Taiwan - die.  The prospect of losing Beijing and several major cities would make the PLA wary of tangling with Taiwan.  If Taiwan was smart - they would do it the same way we do - target the PLA and CCP leadership - not the cities.  Make it personal.
 
If you look carefully, it is the US nuclear umbrellla that hangs quietly over the PLA heads if they decide to step off on Taiwan or Japan.  Nukes have a way of evening the odds - as we found out when the Warsaw Pact outnumbered NATO 10 to 1 in the Fulda Gap. 
 
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BLUIE006       10/9/2007 11:02:22 AM
1. Human/signals/geo-spatial Intelligence.... - Good Intelligence  will always lead to victory.
2.C5I - Communications,Control and  a  effective  comand structure would be vital  during  the intail  chaos
4.Training- military/government personal and the public, defending there homeland  they will, cause huge loses on any  enemy
3. SSG,SSKs , UUV - Silent submarines patrolling the seas, would be be a nightmare for china
4.4/5th Strike Fighters - ( AA REFUELING/AEWAC)
5.Mines,lots  of  mines
6.LACM
7.Hyposonic Anti-ship missiles
8.Maritime patrol aircraft -  P-8 /  UCAVs
9. AWD/ Frigates
10.Shore defences
 
 
 
 
 
 
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YelliChink       10/9/2007 11:30:24 AM

 

hey Yelli,

 

If ROC had nukes the PRC would turn it into a waste land.

 

Sincerely,

 

Keith


Nothing makes me to believe that commies won't use them if we don't have them anyway. It seems to be the only way that commies can win in 7 days.
 
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doggtag       10/9/2007 12:32:03 PM
But isn't their objective to take Taiwan relatively intact (minus any military resistance) ?
 
Why would they utilize even low-yield tactical nukes? That still means any occupying chinese military and policing forces would have to contend with the clean up, let alone explaining to the UN and World Court their justification for using nuclear weapons, which would obviously have more dire consequences against the general populace than against the Taiwan military.
 
 
...Or, mainland china could just wait until Herr Hillary wins POTUS. I'm sure she'd be willing to hand over Taiwan to the mainland without so much as a whimper.
 
It's been speculated that the PRC wouldn't act until after the '08 Olympics, solely for PR purposes.
But here's a more sinister thought: what if they wait and act mid-way during the Olympics, with the obvious side benefits of using all those foreigners as hostages in some form...?
 
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tianjinrob       10/9/2007 12:43:07 PM
That's a nasty thought... no one could retaliate (nukes) without the possibility of mass international casualties during the Olympics. We could potentially sink their entire navy in retaliation, and seize oil and shipping belonging to China. A plus for us is that the international community would be on our side of this conflict, with their citizen in a defacto hostage situation.
 
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tianjinrob       10/9/2007 12:54:05 PM
That's a nasty thought... no one could retaliate (nukes) without the possibility of mass international casualties during the Olympics. We could potentially sink their entire navy in retaliation, and seize oil and shipping belonging to China. A plus for us is that the international community would be on our side of this conflict, with their citizen in a defacto hostage situation.
 
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andyf       10/9/2007 1:02:26 PM
why defend them? not our battle
 
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