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Subject: Who will win the civil war?
Danuas    6/8/2004 2:44:44 PM
who will win the civil war in Nepal. I have heard that the communists are controling large parts of the country. The rebels are greater in number, but their weapons not very up to date. The king of Nepal rules the country, but hated by the people. His son is even worse. The Maoists are gaining much support from the people. Who will win???
 
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musloko-maro    RE:Who will win the civil war?   5/11/2005 1:34:33 PM
The only way to defeat the Chinese inspired-supported "Maoist revolution" and that "Prachanda" a.k.a. a neecha prani is to install a republican government, with elections and a written constitution after elections. We do not need this monarch, Gyaanendra, a loafer, lafanga and an absolute bastard. He is the root cause of all out problems. True, we will have instability and disorder, once we disbandan the monarchial dictatorship, but we need to replace it with an effective people's rule, not with the Chinese brand. Nepal's ethos and fate are always inextricably linked with India and democratic India, whether we want it or like it! Yes, the medicine and therapy are more worse than the disease, but better in the longer run
 
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timon_phocas    RE:Democracy, Fascism and Communism    5/11/2005 2:43:51 PM
>> I have already read a thousand times that communism and fascism were the two sides of the same coin. I am just wondering why capitalist countries helped so many fascist dictatorships in the world and overthrew or tried to overthrow democratically elected regimes (Congo, Nicaragua, Chile, recently Venezuela etc.) << Democratic states allied with a communist state (the Soviet Union) to defeat a fascist state (Nazi Germany) that threatened them all. Democratic states allied with lesser fascist states to outlast a ocmmunist state (the Soviet Union) that threatened them all. Democratic states are now giving the old, heave-ho to the lesser fascist states This is no better and no worse than the Communist Soviet Union allying itself with Nazi Germany for the first 2 years of World War II
 
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musloko-maro    RE:Democracy, Fascism and Communism    5/11/2005 10:31:05 PM
timon_phocas You have advanced excellent arguments. If you are from Nepal, you would know better, the stratified classication of the society, from immemorial(actually it is from 1760s) the solid edifice, exists in Nepal, which cannot be undone. The people are an ancient lot, patient and have always been obedient to authority and monarchy. But when China stabilized ittself, and with India's stupid Nehru giving the Chinese a great favor on a silver platter, China laid a coarse for revolutionary marxist insurgency, not only in Nepal, border areas of India, in many African nations as well, They were very much successful in S.E. Asia(Korea and Vietnam, Macao, etc,) Your agruments will not cut ice in the present context with the people of Nepal, who are in pursuit of quick change for the bettter, to solve their problems. Once communism sets, and people get disillusioned, then there will be scope for further democratic process. Will this safely and surely happen? Can't say! We are not sure of anything, definite in Nepal, with a bastard as a King, and a Prachanda a Chinese stooge! The King has to go, he is an usurper and a criminal!
 
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DrCruel    Communism and Semantics   6/7/2005 4:53:15 PM
Communist regimes always "fail" to live up to their ideology. Since they always fail, and always fail (intentionally) in the same predictable ways, one must accept at somer point that this "failure" is nothing of the kind, but is in fact what intellectual adherents are in the business of communism for. This is why I use the term "Leftism", which has come to mean something entirely different to what was intended during the French Revolution. And this is why I consider Nazism virtually identical to all other revolutionary Leftist "communist" and "socilaist" movements I have ever heard of. The idea is to seize power and exploit the labour potential of the masses - modern Leftism likes to sell that labour potential to corporate interests. This is what Leftism has come to mean in the 21st century, whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not.
 
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avash    RE:Maoist in Nepal are group of Robbers   6/10/2005 12:47:38 AM
Maoist were fuled by last 14 years ruling of corrupt politician. Now as the king has taken over, corruption is under control and the government more responsible and the Army is ready to defend the people. The maoist leader are based in India and funded and army supply from their. Now they are beeing pushed back to India and Nepal once again is peaceful
 
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Godofgamblers    to musloko-maro   4/24/2006 10:44:48 PM
I remember some months back we discussed the situation in Nepal and you told me that the King had in fact manipulated events and was an out of control tyrant. I read your comments with interest but was not fully convinced. Now that events have gone the way they have, it is clear that you were completely correct. The Maoist guerrillas were a major force in reining in the king. could they end up holding power? Could Gyanendra have ended up pushing Nepal into the hands of the Maoist guerrillas? I pray all goes well for Nepal.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:to musloko-maro   4/25/2006 12:42:33 AM
EITHER WAY ITS THE PEOPLE WHO LOSE AND nepal will still be a banana republic.the people are partly toblame,not because they are bad or unintelligent but because they have lost in touch with reality.the youth there is very westernised;only in terms of clothing and music that is.they lag behind in all other departments.
 
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Godofgamblers    RE:to musloko-maro eggfooyoung   4/25/2006 9:46:56 AM
why the negative vibes, dude? nepal is a beautiful country. is westernization the benchmark for all evaluation? nepal is far from being a banana republic, as far as i can see. why do you claim this? is it just an insult you have chosen off the cuff, or are you suggesting that it can be easily overthrown by a dominant neighbor upon a whim (following the 'banana republic paradigm')?
 
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DrCruel    Some answers to GoG   5/22/2006 5:58:27 AM
is westernization the benchmark for all evaluation? * No, but public opinion should be. From what I've heard and seen, the Maobadi is almost universally hated, partly because of and partly why they kidnap Nepalese children to fill their depleted ranks. nepal is far from being a banana republic, as far as i can see. why do you claim this? * Because they have no indigenous arms industry, and yet the insurgents seem to be well stocked with lots of Chinese-made assault rifles and RPGs. It's pretty obvious that outside nations are involved with this "internal" conflict. are you suggesting that it can be easily overthrown by a dominant neighbor upon a whim? * Not at all, the Maobadi are getting their butts kicked by the indigenous forces. But the Maobadi are killing lots of Nepalese civilians in the process.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:Who will win the civil war?   5/23/2006 12:16:33 AM
I AM SURE THE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY LOST.NEPALESE NEED SOME COMMON SENSE AND INTELLECT.instead of focusing on petty issues,you should look ahead and show some real committment especially the people in the valley.
 
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