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Subject: 5/25/09 Reports and Claims of North Korean conducting 2nd nuclear weapon test
Carl D.    5/25/2009 12:41:08 AM
Posted for fair use.... link May 25, 2009 North Korea Claims to Conduct 2nd Nuclear Test By CHOE SANG-HUN SEOUL, South Korea ? North Korea announced on Monday it had successfully conducted its second nuclear test, defying international warnings and drastically raising the stakes in a global effort to get the recalcitrant Communist state to give up its nuclear weapons program. The North?s official news agency, KCNA, said the country had conducted an ?underground? nuclear test. The announcement came moments after the South Korean government?s geological sensors had detected an artificially triggered tremor emanating from Kilju, northeast North Korea, said Lee Dong-kwan, spokesman of the office of President Lee Myung-bak of South Korea. The spokesman said ?intelligence officials of South Korea and the United States are analyzing the data and closely monitoring the situation.? Word of the nuclear test sent a shudder through Asian financial markets, with Korea?s stock index plunging four percentage points within minutes. North Korea conducted its first nuclear test on Oct. 9, 2006, and it had given some advance notice of its intention to test a device. That initial test also was in the northeast. North Korea recently threatened to conduct a second nuclear test, citing what it called Washington?s ?hostilities? against the isolated Communist regime. The test came against a backdrop of heightened tensions between North Korea and the United States, which keeps a heavy military deployment in South Korea. Two American journalists are scheduled to be tried June 4 in North Korea, charged with illegal entry into the North and ?hostile acts.? That case in particular has aggravated tensions between Pyongyang and Washington, which were already strained after the North launched a long-range rocket on April 5. After that launching, Washington pressed the United Nations Security Council to tighten sanctions on the North. In retaliation, Pyongyang expelled United Nations nuclear monitors, while threatening to restart a plant that makes weapons-grade plutonium and to conduct a nuclear test. This month, one day after an American diplomat offered new talks on North Korea?s nuclear program, the North said it had become useless to talk further with the United States. ?The study of the policy pursued by the Obama administration for the past 100 days since its emergence made it clear that the U.S. hostile policy toward the D.P.R.K. remains unchanged,? the North Korean Foreign Ministry said, using the initials for the country?s official name, the Democratic People?s Republic of Korea. In comments carried by KCNA, the ministry said: ?There is nothing to be gained by sitting down together with a party that continues to view us with hostility.? The rebuff came as Stephen W. Bosworth, the American special envoy on North Korea, began a trip to Asia with a fresh offer of dialogue. The North?s vow to ?bolster its nuclear deterrent? came just hours before Mr. Bosworth was due to arrive in Seoul.
 
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warpig       6/1/2009 8:04:34 AM

 I mentioned the SM-2 purchase with relations to the heightened tensions with North Korea and its belligerent actions to its neighbors. I did not mention the purchase of SM-2s with regards to Beazz's post. Although I can see why my back to back posts could have been interpreted that way, but that was not my intention.


I see.  Especially considering that some of the more recent North Korean test launches have been of ASCMs, getting some BlockIIIA and (best of all) some Block IIIB SM-2s is definitely a good idea for the South Korean Navy.
 
 
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FJV    Local politics?   6/2/2009 2:29:24 PM
Kim announced his successor.
 
The test could be a show of force to establish who is the faction that is the most powerful.

 
 
 
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Beazz       6/3/2009 2:28:46 AM

 


First, Spiky, the purchase of a few more SM-2 SAMs would be completely unrelated to any shipment of a nuclear weapon in a container ship, even if it did happen.

 

No offense, Beazz, but to me that story is goofy on numerous counts.  Among them are:

 

The NRO doesn't issue reports regarding the actual operational details of satellite mission packages.  That's not their job. 


 

I suggest to you that we don't identify specific satellites using names like "Misty-2" and "Lacrosse-4."

 

I'd certainly like to know what technology was used on "Misty-2" and "Lacrosse-4" to detect these "diffuse energy signatures."  What is this, a rejected script from Star Trek?  Yes, there are forms of MASINT that deal with detecting emissions throughout the RF spectrum including things like IR or way up in the gamma and x-ray region, with detecting the presence of specific particles through things like spectroscopy, with physically collecting and analyzing samples of particles, etc.  I'd love to see how this detecting of a warhead in a container was done from satellites!

 

Incidentally, the concensus of internet rumor-mongering seems to be that the LACROSSE program is a series of radar imagery satellites, and that MISTY is a program for optical and/or radar imagery satellites with a special low observable shroud--neither of which has anything to do with detection of some sort of "diffuse energy signature" of a nuclear weahead inside a container.

 

The idea that a torpedo hit to the ship could somehow in itself detonate the nuclear warhead is laughable.  That sounds like something out of a comic book, and by itself is enough for me to discount this supposed military source.  Also, why not worry about that with respect to an attack by aircraft?  Getting hit by 2000lb bombs is no picnic, either.

 

The environmental damage at the bottom of the sea?  While if it did break open there could be some damage, does this author not know that there have been several bombs dropped into the sea over the years, not to mention a few nuclear reactors from subs?  No Godzillas or Smog Monsters have emerged so far.

 

This thing belongs on Snopes.com... if it was more believable.

 

My opinion is, "Nothing to see here."  And while I had no previous experience with Hal Turner, I suggest this is good evidence for putting him in the same cubbyhole as DEBKa.

 

 


Warpig,
I posted the article as a question, not as fact. A friend sent it to me and ask me what I thought and I told him most likely BS. So I just posted it here to get some other opinions and ask if was real or not. Nothing more.
 
Beazz
 
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