Also on a more controversial note that Jinnak was the  illegimate son  of Pherozeshah Mehta who according to dates was approx 30 years old when Jinnah was born.

If you look at certain features such as ears etc. you maybe able to  see some resemblance but again it is hearsay. 

Another interesting fact is that we had servants, and still do who have realtives that have worked for the Jinnah family.

It is interesting to me that Jinnah was a Shia Khoja and non observant muslim but founded Pakistan that  has become a fairly conservative Isalmic state.

 

 

It was a member of the Kanga clan of the Parsi(Zoarastrian) lawyers, that

were mentors of the young Jinnah, who was hardly 20 years of age in 1896.

 

But Jinnah's 'unique distinction' of being the youngest lawyer, was beaten

by a Sindhi Hindu, who later became a fire brand lawyer. Ram Jethmalani

became a lawyer at age 17.

 

Jinnah was black-balled(the term is used in secret societes to exclude any

possible new  member) by his Parsi mentors, who concluded that Jinnah

was extremely promiscuous with his whisky drinking & pork eating habits

and probably many a tete-e-tete with several women of ill repute or

questionable character. 

 

Jinnah was cocksure that he was humiliated by the Brahmins of the

Bombay Presidency, which was totally unfounded.

 

In political life, Nehru outfoxed Jinnah, since Nehru was the most

popular person in the 30s & 40s.

 

The only way Jinnah could get even with Nehru and the Hindu

establishment of the Indian National Congress, was to stand

like the"rock of Gibraltor" in the wee hours of the morning of

fateful month of June 1947, thus driving the last nail in the

coffin of a united India.

 

The late Rafiq Zackaria(father of Fareed Zackaria of USA's

ABC, TV) squarely blames Nehru for not being "Lincoln

enough"( a ref to USA's Abe Lincoln of Civil War times)

to stand up to Jinnah's ransom demands and not facing the

civil war like situation.

 

Once the June Plan of Partition of India, was announced, making

India's partition plan written in stone, people like Haramzada Liaqhat

Ali Khan,  Sir H. S. Suhrawardy, Ch. Md. Zafarullah Khan,  Malik Sir

Feroz Khan Noon, Sir Shah Nawaz Bhutto(Bewarsi Benazir Bhutto's

grand dad) & others could not believe! They were all stunned! They

never thought even in their wildest fantasies that Nehru(or INC)

would ever concede on a platter! The Muslim League was actually

preparing for a  prolonged civil war. It was Jinnah's cast iron will

and political tenancity that made it possible.

 

 

Why Nehru was forced to concede Partition?  Mainly for three

reasons. He didn't want a another "Great Action Day" of

killing of Hindus. The Muslim regiments were firing on Hindus

despite orders to protect them, and finally, there was none in the

All India Muslim League to reason with Jinnah, and no body dared

to oppose Jinnah in the League. Jinnah was everything in the AIML

No ifs, buts, nothing!!

 

The Congress Party of those was far more democratic, despite

all the big guns.

 

There was only one truth in Jinnah's address in the Pak's Constituent

Assemby for inauguration of a "muslim India". Jinnah did concede

that: There are more people in Pakistan, among it's muslim population

 

That was the only axiomatic truth ever uttered by Jinnah, in his sorry,

sickening, sordid, emaciated physical, moral & politcal life of utterly

pointless and meaningless existence, that has left a huge Sub-Continent,

still festering  with incurable wounds.

 

Guess what?

 

 

 

Rest is history.

 

 

 

Arrey  'suvar'(pig) Muhammed!

 

India is far, far ahead of all Pak-shaittani universities( and educational institutions)

 

Don't take my word. One person by name Pervez Hoodbhoy's articles

should suffice, and be an eye-opener for all Pakis with myopic vision

of India.

 

 

Just check out the number of Indian engineers, scientists in NASA at one of

it's locations, say Houston, Texas. The Hindus will outnumber Pakis(and all sullahs/dullahs) by 20 to 1.

 

There is hardly any university in the U.S., whether state or private, without

Indians in positions of responsibility and decision-making.

 

Arrey, maafker! Just attend a meeting, rather gathering of Pakis in Canada/

U.S. versus the Indians. See how many professionals are there amongst the Indians.

The Pakis assns. are all dominated by gas-station attendents, conv. store clerks,

sales-personnel from grocery stores, etc..

 

In Victoria & Vancouver(B.C.) alone, at the last count the Indian professionals

outnumbered Pakis by 18 to 1. The less said about ON or QC or AB provinces.

Never worry about Saskies!

Hi All!

 

It's been real fun reading through the posts on this particular link. I've learnt so much, in fact indebited to thank the really fine minds that have added to it. I mean please excuse my excitement, it's just the mind boggling facts!

 

Basically from what I could gather (please excuse my obvious limited intelligence) from this thread, the claims were:

 

1. Jinnah could not have graduated from College because he was stupid to suggest partition

 

2. Jinnah wasn't a good muslim

 

3. Indians are really clever because they hold high positions in industry

 

Hopefully you really genetically intelligent people will give this novice 'Pakistani' an opportunity to counter these claims!?

 

1. If Jinnah was so unintelligent why was he at one point the congress leader for all of India? Why was Jinnah the architect behind the Kucknow pact? Why was Jinnah present at the first ever round table talks? Why was Jinnah actually persuaded to return to India?

But ignore this, please! Which people listened to his rationale about the two state theory? Thats right! The people who mattered! The British, Gandhi, Nehru etc etc! You may claim that wanted to avoid bloodshed, but please, was their confidence and resolve so weak!? And just to clarify, Jinnah suggested partition after the short-sighted Nehru report which wanted everybody to hold hands and sing songs. Jinnah did suggest changes, but congress as per usual were scared after threat of violence from the communist Hindu group! Let me allow you to remeber, Jinnah along with some ther great men fought hard against British oppression of our unique and diverse culture. This determination and sacrifice was for our freedom that we really enjoy today. I believe this freedom is being abused by some.

 

2. Supposedly Jinnah wasn't a good muslim!? Please give me your definition of a good muslim. A muslim is never defined by his name but his actions. Jinnah withered his youth away and life away for many good causes. Freedom from the British, for both Hindu's and Muslims. However although I was initially reluctant, I will now bring forward a few home truths; Nehru although a Hindu, was quite well knowed for eating beef and drinking an excessive amount of wine. As for his liking of women, the less said the better. If rumours are true about his friendship with the last viceroy, you could add that he had a liking for boys too!

Continued:

 

3. Supposedly Indians are really clever because they hold high positions in industry. Once partition had occured in both dominions; Hindustan and Pakistan the structures of both countries were similar. Both countries had a Govenor-General and a Prime minster. However there was one difference, the Governor-General of India was also the last British Viceroy! Even after independance, you needed British help. But intelligent people always need help!? Indians are so so so patriotic, that they leave their own countries to be run by foreigners, while they are out in other countries, boosting the economy of other countries!?

 

However, I would like end on one final note. The freedom we as sub-continental asians enjoy were established by the like of Jinnah, Gandhi, Nehru, Sardar Patel and Liaqut Ali Khan. How do we spend that freedom? By coming online insulting one another and counter insulting! If anything, non of our leaders was perfect!!! If they were, we would be living in peace standing beside one another. Was partition a mistake? The question has no validity then or now! As Gandhi Ji said, "an eye for eye, will lead to the world going blind" So how about we don't blind one another?

Lincoln was mentioned.

 

Lincoln never graduated from, nor could he graduate from an American University. He didn't have the right connections, pull, or religion.

 

 

I just want to make that point very clear.

 

Don't show the Free Masons movement disrespect either. Those of them who were among our founding fathers seem to have done an exceedingly good job with the United States.

 

Herald