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Subject: Nostradamus is No Hoax....India is bound to be a Superpower
vinuatlast    11/5/2004 7:44:50 AM
This article is written hereby not to bring into disregards the religion of Islam or its followers ..its just to prove on the matter that India indeed can become a Superpower if we strive for it ..and its bound to happen. Everyone in the West, from statesman to crossing-sweeper, is aware of the fame of NOSTRADAMUS, the French-Jewish seer who died more than 400 years ago. The reason for his extraordinary popularity is quite simple. Many predictions published by Nostradamus in 1555 have been completely vindicated by the passage of time. Writing more than 400 years ago, he not only foresaw the two World Wars of the 20th century, but also came close to mentioning Hitler by name! Earlier on, the French Revolution reached elimination in 1792, as predicted by him. Incredible? Well, it is almost unbelievable. But even the most strident critics have been silenced by the phenomenal accuracy of the French seer. Of the approximately 2,500 forecasts that he published in his poetic "Centuries", no less than 800 have been precisely fulfilled so far. The remainder covers the period up to the year 3797. The track record of Nostradamus is so perfect that there can be no doubt that the others too will be realized. His "Centuries" are absolutely amazing. For Hindus especially, Nostradamus ought to be a hero of immense cheer. The Frenchman never visited India. In point of time, his forecasts were published well before Akbar became the Moghul ruler in Delhi. But, despite the great distance of time and space, Nostradamus clearly foresaw the rise of a mighty all-conquering Hindu nation. Its birth is close at hand. The seer predicts that a resurgent India will burst forth upon its former oppressors and destroy them completely. The beginning of this terrible revenge will be in the seventh month of 1999. Meanwhile, he predicts, after seven years of furious warfare, the Moslems will be totally wiped out. There will be no trace left of either Mecca or Medina. Somanath will be avenged a billion times over. The creed of Muhammad will vanish forever. The European countries who despoiled India will not be let off either. Flames will engulf Rome as Hindu soldiers advance on Paris overcoming the barrier of the Alps. The Pope will fly from his lair. Much of Europe will repudiate the false tenets of Christianity. The ancient sway of Hinduism will be restored. Vedic chants will again fill the air. Does this all sound like a fairy-tale? To convince the skeptics it is best to quote the prophetic quatrains of the "Centuries". It must always be borne in mind that they were first published in 1555. Two copies of that edition are still preserved in the French National Library in Paris. Their genuineness cannot be disputed. Moslem murderers and their Western patrons will find the following forecast particularly hard to stomach: Quatrain 75, Century X Long awaited, he will not take birth in Europe, India will produce the immortal ruler, Seeing wisdom and power of unlimited scope, Asia will bow before this conquering scholar. As if this were not a sufficient warning to fanatics, Nostradamus makes his meaning still more explicit in the following: Quatrain 96, Century X The religion of the name of the seas triumphs, Against the fanatics of the Khalif's adalat, The murderous creed of the false alefs, Between the Hindus and Christians will be caught. This prophecy need a little explication. In geography, one finds the Hindu Maha Sagar (the Indian Ocean in English). Hinduism is the only religion with a sea (an ocean, rather) named after it. The Moslem fanatics believe that the Shariat or Koranic law with its sexual licence is God-given or Khalif's adalat. The Koran itself opens with the letter alef (A) in Arabic. Both Hindus and Christians have suffered at the hands of Moslems and seek revenge. Lebanon is a foretaste of things to come. The Nostradamian quatrain spells the doom of the creed. If this interpretation should sound far-fetched, consider yet another prophetic quatrain: Quatrain 50, Century L From the peninsula where three seas meet, Comes the ruler to whom Thursday is holy, His wisdom and might all nations will greet, To oppose him in Asia will be folly. South India is the only peninsula in the entire globe where three seas meet a point and stretch away. The great Hindu leader who will wipe out our enemies will hence be a south Indian who offers worship on Thursdays. It is easy to see why Nostradamus specifically mentions Thursday as the holy day. It is only Hindus who consider Thursday sacred. Moslems pray on Friday; Jews bow before God on Saturday; Christians bawl hymns on Sunday at church. Nostradamus is making it clear here that the conqueror will be a Hindu from South India. He will bind Asia together under his rule. The Hindu leader, however, will not be a tyrant. He will be ruthless with the Moslem fanatics. But he will win over the communists by persuading them of the timeless varieties of
 
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interestred    RE:Nostradamus is No Hoax....India is bound to be a Superpower   12/24/2004 4:51:58 AM
lol, sometimes some posts here leave me ina dilemma. shud i laugh my guts out ? or shud i cry myself dry at this insanity ? anyways, this particualr post is one of them, but intruiging nonetheless
 
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ArrowGuns    Cut the propoganda   12/25/2004 1:05:55 PM
I am sure there are Moslem, Jewish, Chinese and Sikh interpretations of Nostradamus' prophecies, each showing the greatness of their country / religion. Cut the crap and post something useful.
 
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chanakya    RE:Nostradamus is No Hoax....India is bound to be a Superpower   1/4/2005 12:59:23 AM
as an intensly patriotic indian, i felt like digging a hole and burying myself in it , when i read this idiotic post. whaether india will be a superpower or not will be decided by our own efforts, our technology, economy and SECULAR society.a bunch of rabid hindu fanatics sitting around waiting for some kind of hindu messiah to come around wont get us anywhere. a nation becomes asuperpower by the toil of its countrymen not by the predictions of prophets. btw, nostradamus also predicted the end of the world in 2000 , what happened? also it's pakistan and its warped idea of islam that is the true adversary, NOT the islamic faith. if islam holds a country back or makes it backward, the by having more muslims than pakistan we would be more backward thaem wont we ? we have reached where we are noe because of our DEMOCRATIC and SECULAR institutions, the moment we give into fantasies about hindu rulers and a hindu kingdom waging war on europe, we lose what our illustrious forefathers, including the father of the nation , strived so hard for. so debate, and try to prove the pakistanis wrong by strength of argument, not prophecies. and when u trash the islamic religion try to think of the crores of your brothers who follow islam and love their country and die for it, not as muslims, but as indians.
 
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GautKaps    RE:Chanakya   1/4/2005 1:13:31 AM
I was a little taken aback from the previous post when you mentioned that as Indians we need to allow the Kashmiris the right to join India or pakistan..... Obviously you spoke at length about what India needs to do but never shed your pearls of wisdom for the Islamic terrorists.... India has progressed where it has because of its education system.No amount of democracy or its values can make a nation great until the people work hard..China and Russia were not superpowers as democracies...... The father of our nation has wreaked nuthin but havoc so stop patronising him.....some very good articles have been posted by Musloko and Vikram Singh on the same...... Today 95% of political problems are related to islam.....Unfortunately we face this same issue due to islamic terrorists outside and within India...... Pakistan's education system is piled up with medrassas preaching Islam,hate and th rest of it.... We would be in the same pathetic condition as Pakistan if this were a Muslim dominated society.... I strongly suggest that you do DIG a HOLE and BURY yourself in it....
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Chanakya   1/4/2005 1:26:17 AM
Superpower? I dunno, seems like it would take an awful lot of people to pull something like that off.
 
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chanakya    to gautkaps   1/4/2005 2:37:46 PM
u seem to be against giving the kashmiris a referandum on who they want to be.why should u be afraid of such a move, unless u feel that they will opt for pakistan? let me tell u something, the majority of kashmiris support india, not the terrorists, because if they did, we would have lost kashmir a long time back. they also realise that their only chance of development lies with india not pakistan. if only we had such a clear cut mandate by the kashmiris, we could shut the pakistanis' mouths once and for all. this would only strengthen our position. our progress depends solely on our efforts. this WAS the point i was tryin to make in the first place, einstein ! as for democracies and superpowers, the only superpower now is the usa which, fyi IS a DEMOCRACY. russia was not and it failed. china is a wannabe and it started it's advancement only after the death of mao tse tung and the conferring some basic civil liberties on its citizens. as for badmouthing the the mahatma, u simply reveal u r immaturity , for he was a greater man than a common fundamentalist like u and your ilk can ever hope to be. "todays 95% political problems are related to islam" ? sez who ? a passing glance at any indian newspaper will show u that 100% of india's political problems are created by indian polticians themselves, and read thru all the scams , scandals, etc and try to find a pattern of islamic instigation. u carp on about our and pakistani's educational systems, which have nothing to do with this disscusion at all ! realise, my friend, that our enemy is the hate fueled, madrassa brand islam and jihad preached by the crazy mullahs of pakistan, and the people brainwashed by it, NOT the islamic religion itself.we can see this in india too, when the frothing-at-the-mouth ravings of mr. togadia and co. and other loony groups like the vhp make ordinary hindus like me turn red in the face.
 
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GautKaps    RE:Chanakya   1/5/2005 12:59:42 AM
You really seem to be defending Islam like any other devout Muslim would.Mr Togadia's rantings embarass you, yet the mention of Islmic terrorists hijacking planes or strapping bombs to their waists blowing themselves up in civilian locations does not provoke the least bit of angst or even send a chill down your spine. You're anything but an ordinary Hindu. OK,lets get back to the rubbish you posted: According to you there isnt any relevance talking about Pakistan or India's education system and yet you point out that the enemy lies in those hatred fuelling madrassas.....The Madrassas ,fyi,form an important part of Pakistan's education system and when Aziz or Musharraf or the Americans talk about reforms in their education system they refer to revamping their medrassas which incite youths to fight for the cause of Allah and the rest of it. Since you seem to be well educated from a decent Muslim school or university, who has been taught the use of search engines,I suggest you go and look it up.You might understand then what I am talking about. The education system in India has made a BIG BIG difference.India is a world leader in software because we produce quality engineers thanks to our education system.This is why we are a progressive nation and they arent...The difference is education..... There lies a big difference and it was explained in plain and simple English.I wish I knew Urdu to explain it better to you. China is a wannabe!It advanced after conferring civil liberties to its citizens...OK---the statement is so ridiculous that it really ashames me that an Indian can post such trashy literature on a forum as this.... Russia wasnt a democracy when it was considered a superpower!! US is a big superpower because of its democratic values.....I guess by your logic India should be a bigger superpower because we're a larger democracy.... You idiot-Is that the logic you were taught in whatever Muslim school or University you attended? You Moron-of course our progress depends on our efforts... GO and LOOK at your post-You'll see that you have highlighted SECULAR and pointed democratic values make a nation a superpower...... Do you know why America spends that much money on its defence budget inspite of being the most advanced nation...Figure it out and then debate ! The answer lies here-in...A strong economy and a strong military make a superpower....From the word power emerges powerfull...Simple English.... Russia wields veto power in the UNSC and is still considered a military superpower.Its economy is fragile as compared to other nations. Does that answer your question where that places China..... Kiddo,life is beyond roating those Koranic verses in a rotting medrasah in some forsaken mosque.... When I meant all those problems due to islamic terrorists I meant this planet---you jerk.... Where did I mention problems within India...we're discussing external threats to India such as pakistan on this forum.......Do you realise that---you blithering idiot.... We're not discussing corrupt Indian politicians on an Indo-pakistan forum...... Its not about a referendum in Kashmir..So if a few Jews in India want to be merged with Israel---guess what we hold a referendum....or some tamils wanna unite with their brothers in SL--we hold a referendum.....huh..........Even your so called secular Congress government does not talk about a referendum in KAshmir----Kofi Annan says that it is irrelevant.... But Mr. Chankya from Aligarh Muslim University feels that India should hold a referendum..... You miss the point completely dont you..... Have you heard about the Uighur Muslims in China demanding a seperate state called Turkmenistan or the balochis wanting to join hands with the Afghanis in a seperate state called Pashtunistan... You never hear a PATRIOTIC Chinese or PATRIOTIC pakistani demanding referendum in his own country. So STOP calling yourself a patriotic INDIAN.... Yo're nuthing but a useless son of a WHor*... Stop your useless ranting like a pig from your neighborhood mosque.... Stop demeaning Indians,Indian Hindus or Indian Muslims with all this BS...... As to Gandhi---enuf has been written and said...I did suggest that you go and read up..... Lets see how well educated you are since you chose to write about it anyways...... 1.What was gandhi's biggest achievemnet? 2.Why wasnt gandhi ever awarded the Nobel Peace Prize..... lets see how well our friend Chanakya or Khan or whatever u are can answer this.......
 
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Vikram_Singh    Good Reply Gautkaps   1/5/2005 1:52:47 AM
This Chanakya or whatever is out of his senses and call himself a "ordinary" hindu. Please Chanakya don't offend hindus like that. Do you know even who Chanakaya was??? Let ME remind you that he advocated a growing country to a seven celled organism who grows by waging wars. And you are suggesting we should hold refrendem in kashmir. Perhaps you should change your nickname to Kofi Annan or Pervez Musharraf. Please don't offend Chanakya's dead soul like that. Well Gautkaps has summed up very well but I will still reply to your ridiculous post "ordinary hindu" "let me tell u something, the majority of kashmiris support india, not the terrorists, because if they did, we would have lost kashmir a long time back." Kashmir is joined with india not becuz its people are supporting india or something but due to Punjabi/indian Army that is stationed there. As for their love with india, I challenge you to go to Srinagar and walk down the streets there without any police or army protection and I can almost guarantee you would not see this world again. "if only we had such a clear cut mandate by the kashmiris, we could shut the pakistanis' mouths once and for all. this would only strengthen our position." And what if you don't get clear cut mandate mr chanakya. Then you gonna break up the country aren't you. Like GautKaps said there are separatist movements in almost every corner of india created by your gandhis and congies so why don't you have refrendum at every place and then see what remains of India. "as for democracies and superpowers, the only superpower now is the usa which, fyi IS a DEMOCRACY" I would not mind having US style democracy in india ie no sharia law for muslims, 1 marriage for muslim, common law for everyone. "russia was not and it failed" Russia succeded for 45 years before its economy collapsed. So you thing US gonna be superpower for ever becuz its a democracy. Iraq war is creating fresh doubts in my mind. "china is a wannabe and it started it's advancement only after the death of mao tse tung and the conferring some basic civil liberties on its citizens." Wannabe?? How is china wannabe? If a country wages war against another country and makes itself strong and more powerful, you call it wannabe. India is bigger democracy than China but I don't see population problem, political problems, even muslims are under control in uiggher in china unlike india, the supreme demoracy. "as for badmouthing the the mahatma, u simply reveal u r immaturity , for he was a greater man than a common fundamentalist like u and your ilk can ever hope to be." Yes yes keep praying the freak 24/7 for he is even greater than thou. ""todays 95% political problems are related to islam" ? sez who ?" Sez US (9/11), Israel (no need to mention), Russia (shool children murdered), china( got uigghurs under control), australia (bali bombing), Africa (sudan genocide), europe ie netherlands (film director killed by a muslim wannabe) britton (catches some pakistanis every 3 months for plotting to bomb heathrow airport) Dosen't sez: India (suffering so much from islam but still always say islam is peaceful) "india's political problems are created by indian polticians themselves, and read thru all the scams , scandals, etc and try to find a pattern of islamic instigation" And how many of those politicians are muslims or trying to appease muslims always. "u carp on about our and pakistani's educational systems, which have nothing to do with this disscusion at all" Do you live in India or US? "realise, my friend, that our enemy is the hate fueled, madrassa brand islam and jihad preached by the crazy mullahs of pakistan, and the people brainwashed by it, NOT the islamic religion itself." And where are the origins of this jihad and wannabe stuff, in the islamic religion itself. Dont forget even your muhammad killed countless jews. "this in india too, when the frothing-at-the-mouth ravings of mr. togadia and co. and other loony groups like the vhp make ordinary hindus like me turn red in the face" And just what did this Mr. Togadia said that you turned red. All I can remember is Mr. Togadia always urging hindus to stay alert against muslims and wage war on pakistan. Now which one of those thing turn you red. Or he telling you that your Great Great grandparents were raped by mughals so be alert in the future. Surely that wouldn't make you red would it. Again Read Gautkaps reply as it is more ellaborative, mine is just brief points.
 
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interestred    RE:Good Reply Gautkaps   1/5/2005 2:33:18 PM
ok whatever, chanakya makes a lot more sense than the VHP cadets here i.e. gautkaps. and i read ur last post, n its turning ugly, so beware my frnd, indian or no idnian, i might just decide to report u to sysops.
 
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GautKaps    RE:Intrested in some more logic....   1/5/2005 11:11:55 PM
LOL.....I am a VHP cadet?!?!?!?.....What gave it it away....Damn....I thought I could hide the fact and yet Mr Logical interestingly deciphered it all by Himself...Which part gave it away....huh.... and LOL....which part gave it away that I was a hindu..... Looks like the brothers in arms from a hemingway novel seem to know it all.. Did I patronise Hinduism...huh.....or Did I lay heap of accolades on Togadia.....What gave it away.... Please enlighten all the readers... We're all sincerely interested..... and yes.....empty vessels make more noise...Go ahead and report the post to the Admin....Nobody is stopping YOU.....
 
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