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Subject: Indian Flankers beat RAF Tornados
Buddha_Smiles    6/6/2007 6:58:00 AM
Indian Air Force pilots with their Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters continues to grow their reputation on international exercises. They have beaten the US F-15 and F-16 pilots many times in recent years Cope India exercises. Now Indian pilots beat RAF Tornado pilots. Royal Air Force and Indian Air Force had their first air combat exercise since 1959 after 47 years. One main goal on the exercise was the preparing to get three E-3D AWACS planes into service with the Indian Air Force during the next year. The exercise Indra-Dhanush held by Britons and Indians included BVR and WVR engagements. The RAF brought Tornado F.3s and India Su-30MKI, MiG-21, MiG-27 and Mirage 2000 aircraft into the exercise. Indian Air force officials said that the Tornado F.3 was no match for the Su-30MKI. The Sukhoi was unbeatable even in the BVR tests. In the close-in fights and dogfights the Tornado had no change to do anything. After the Indra-Dhanush Indian pilots felt a great confidence for their Su-30MKI and for their own skills. They even announced that they even didn?t need to use all the Air-to-Air modes available for the radar. RAF Air Marshall Cristopher N. Harper commented that the Eurofighter Typhoon at the time entering service is trhoughoutly a different case. He said that the Su-30MKI has little change to survive in the hands of the Typhoon. Mr. Harper still had to admit that the RAF needs to enhance its cooperation with AWACS systems used in the exercise. The benefits enjoyed by the Indians was the ability to use their Ground Controlled Interception radars or GCIs to lead the Indian fighters well and correctly. The best aircraft India has is the Sukhoi Su-30MKI. India also flew onto exercise the venerable MiG-21, MiG-27 and newer and more potent Mirage 2000 fighters. The well handled joint operation between the radars and the older jets made it possible for the oldies to find their targets in almost realtime accuracy.
 
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gf0012-aust       6/6/2007 7:30:12 AM

For crying out loud, why the hell don't newspapers get their journalists to understand the basics about DACT before writing about "winners and losers"
 
ferking idiots
 
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Buddha_Smiles       6/7/2007 7:38:02 AM
1.) no1 is crying out loud except you
2.) avionics journalists do know more on this matter than u do

 
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displacedjim       6/7/2007 8:02:57 AM
Don't sweat it, gf.  It serves both our purposes and India's for the gullible to think that by some standard of measurement the IAF is "better" than USAF or RAF.  It's cool, we all know what would happen if we needed it to.
 
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Herc the Merc    Besides F-22 and F-35   6/7/2007 1:28:53 PM

Don't sweat it, gf.  It serves both our purposes and India's for the gullible to think that by some standard of measurement the IAF is "better" than USAF or RAF.  It's cool, we all know what would happen if we needed it to.



With SU30MKI and their Avionics plus pythons & Phalcons--IAF has an edge on all airforces in the world except for numbers. It is in fact far superior than most realize. The Israeli and French systems are a notch above the rest--unless the Raptor shows up at the party. And now quite possibly stealth has been compromised to Israel and Swiss contacts along with the Chinese all the IAF needs is more numbers. The RAAF or the RAF does not even compare (though they have the money to beat the IAF-they have no need).
 
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displacedjim       6/7/2007 11:37:04 PM




Don't sweat it, gf.  It serves both our purposes and India's for the gullible to think that by some standard of measurement the IAF is "better" than USAF or RAF.  It's cool, we all know what would happen if we needed it to.





With SU30MKI and their Avionics plus pythons & Phalcons--IAF has an edge on all airforces in the world except for numbers. It is in fact far superior than most realize. The Israeli and French systems are a notch above the rest--unless the Raptor shows up at the party. And now quite possibly stealth has been compromised to Israel and Swiss contacts along with the Chinese all the IAF needs is more numbers. The RAAF or the RAF does not even compare (though they have the money to beat the IAF-they have no need).
 

Yeah, well if the war iss fought with a couple dozen fighters and a couple AWACS on each side, then you would be partially right.
 
Except it wouldn't be, so you aren't.
 
 
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HoundOfHello    DJ and GF   6/7/2007 11:43:40 PM
Why do you guys even bother? Let BS (fitting, isn't it?) and Herc dance happily in their rainbow world. Some people just can't be reached through all the tinfoil. Meanwhile, I'll go back to lurking and LEARNING from the rest of SP that knows what they're talking about.

-HoH

 
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Herc the Merc    Displaced   6/8/2007 12:30:20 PM
IAF is designed to fight Pak and China across the Himalayas--its expanding largely due to US pressure seeking allies-that well "fight" instead of provide moral support. So unless someone here doesn't pay their bills I see little motivation for IAF to scale upto USAF class force.
 
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