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Subject: China Lays claim to Arunachal pradesh!!
rogue    11/15/2006 11:19:55 AM
So what's cooking in the chinese minds, spewing stuff like this just before president Hu's visit?
 
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Herald1234    Sad to say the PRC is not very smart.   11/15/2006 1:54:19 PM
Hubris.

Herald

 
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Herc the Merc    Just an idiot ambassador   11/15/2006 1:57:44 PM
The Chinese will back out.
 
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Jawan    Chinese Arrogance!!!   11/15/2006 9:51:57 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Autocratic_China_becoming_arrogant/articleshow/453194.cms

It is extraordinary for the Chinese ambassador to publicly claim on Indian soil that an entire Indian state ? Arunachal Pradesh ? belongs to his country. Not only does this statement reflect pointless belligerence, but it also counterproductively vitiates the atmosphere on the eve of Chinese President Hu Jintao’s India visit. If anything, the statement may be seen by many as a pointer to the danger of autocratic China becoming arrogant.

By contrast, it is unthinkable that a serving Indian ambassador would utter on Chinese soil ? or elsewhere ? anything insensitive about China. No Indian ambassador would dare even suggest that China resolve the Tibet or Taiwan issue peacefully by respecting the views of the majority of Tibetans or Taiwanese. Tactless or obtuse statements or actions are hardly the way to advance national interests. But China, being a closed system, does not seem to understand that.

The disturbing part is that this was not the first occasion when Chinese Ambassador to India Sun Yuxi spoke undiplomatically in public. Throwing diplomatic norms to the wind, the envoy took the lead last month in publicly castigating his host nation for seeking to exclude from Indian contracts a few Chinese firms tied to the People’s Liberation Army that are involved in strategic projects antithetical to Indian interests. For example, how can the state-run China Harbour Engineering Company develop Pakistan’s Chinese-funded Gwadar port-cum-naval base and still seek to build Indian ports? Most Chinese firms active or interested in India are unaffected by New Delhi’s action.

Yet, the Chinese ambassador condemned his host country at a news conference in New Delhi, setting the stage for friends of China, including in the CPI (M), to join the denunciation of the Indian government action. Sun Yuxi’s impertinence reminded many Indians of the way the Chinese consul-general in Mumbai audaciously talked down to Defence Minister Pranab Kumar Mukherjee at a seminar last year.

China’s claim to Tawang or to the whole of Arunachal Pradesh is not new. For long, Beijing has maintained its claim to Arunachal Pradesh as a bargaining chip in the border negotiations with India. What is new is for Chinese officials to make public their country’s claim to Arunachal Pradesh or to a slice of that state, Tawang.

The Chinese claim, in essence, is a classical example of a state pursuing incremental territorial expansion. The frontiers of China and India met for the first time in history only when China annexed Tibet in 1950. Within 12 years of becoming India’s neighbour, China invaded India from two separate fronts, with Mao Zedong cleverly timing his aggression with the onset of the Cuban missile crisis, which had brought the United States and the Soviet Union to the brink of a nuclear confrontation.

Having gobbled up the buffer separating the Indian and Chinese civilizations throughout history, China now lays claim to Tawang or to the whole of Arunachal Pradesh on the basis of the putative historical ties between Tibet and Arunachal. In other words, China is attempting to territorially extend the gains from its annexation of Tibet.

It brings out clearly that China is unwilling to settle the border issue on the basis of the status quo. Not satisfied with the Indian territories it has occupied, either by conquest or by covert encroachment, Beijing wishes to further redraw the frontiers with India, even as it keeps up the charade of border negotiations. These negotiations began in 1981, and after a quarter-century of sustained talks, India and China remain the only neighbours in the world not separated even by a mutually defined line of control.

Ambassador Sun’s statement and China’s failure to agree to a new round of border talks just before Hu’s visit send out a loud message: Beijing has little stake in an early settlement of the border disputes with New Delhi because, from the Chinese perspective, unsettled frontiers help keep India under strategic pressure, pinning down large numbers of Indian troops along the Himalayas.

China’s gameplan is simple: maintain peace and tranquility along the frontiers and keep India engaged in border negotiations, but make no concrete moves to resolve the territorial disputes. Yet, cleverly, by putting forward its outrageous claim to Arunachal and more specifically to Tawang, Beijing has sought to place the onus on India for achieving progress in the border talks.

India needs to ask itself why it is always at the receiving
 
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rogue       11/16/2006 1:55:56 PM
I'm pretty sure china will not be starting a military "mis-adventure" anytime soon, unless they wanna get thier ass whooped by the "meek" indians and loose all the FDI that has been pouring into china.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    Good cop/bad cop   11/16/2006 2:01:30 PM
The ambassador to India is playing bad cop so Hu can play good cop.  Hu will come in and play down the claim and propose a steering committee to talk endless about how to talk about resolving the situation in exchange for IT outsourcing an d natural resource concessions from India.

WARN YOUR NEGOTIATORS!

 
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rogue       11/18/2006 10:49:23 AM
It's hard to get anything out of indian negotiators....it's the way all indians work....we are cheap....and so it's hard to get concessions from us, unless we get something substantial in exchange!!
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       11/18/2006 11:52:00 AM

It's hard to get anything out of indian negotiators....it's the way all indians work....we are cheap....and so it's hard to get concessions from us, unless we get something substantial in exchange!!


Like Hu officially dismissing that chinese official's remarks? 
 
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rogue       11/20/2006 1:26:57 AM




It's hard to get anything out of indian negotiators....it's the way all indians work....we are cheap....and so it's hard to get concessions from us, unless we get something substantial in exchange!!




Like Hu officially dismissing that chinese official's remarks? 

Like indians talking to Hu about nuclear supplies.....that's on the agenda!!
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       11/20/2006 6:57:22 PM
China is dying of thirst, and the water it does drink is so dirty it is almost better to drink urine.  India should underestimate China at a time like this, but give them nothing.  Prepare to fight an enemy dying of thirst who has no regard for human life, only the survival of the CCP.
 
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rogue       11/21/2006 3:39:43 AM
It seems the indians finally realize what china is doing in tibet (building uo road, rail and air infratructure). According to this report the indians have put in place a project to build a 7000 km road network along the LAC to counter china's moves.
 
 
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