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Subject: Why Hindi films never win any international awards
musloko-maro    3/29/2006 4:51:59 PM
Oscar is giving awards for the last 78 years, but no Hindi film has ever won any international award. During the 78 years history of Oscar Awards, only 3 Hindi movies were nominated but no movie has won any award so far. The three movies during the last 78 years, nominated for Oscar awards were Mother India, Gandhi, and Lagaan. Not even any Hindi film has ever been selected for any other international awards like Genies Awards. Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses. No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films. In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work. There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages. Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people. In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley?s Believe it or Not: ?Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.? There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all. By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga ? all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga ? they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga ? the five letters beginning with Pa ? they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence ? what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world. By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat. Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words. Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi. These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi. Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc. Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willi
 
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olive greens    RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards   4/3/2006 1:47:03 PM
>> Shorter the sweeter. Ja, Howl! Herr Oberst! Like a miniskirt! LOL!!! << Promoted me to a full colonel, did you? Cut straight to the cream, eh?
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards   4/4/2006 12:07:18 AM
I don't think the Oscars like musicals much, I've only seen parts of some bollywood movies and they all seem to be musicals. Even if there is a significant story in the movies people outside of the region might not be able to pick it out from all of the singing and dancing.
 
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Jawan    RE:GANDHI ADMIRER and Not a FOLLOWER!!!!   4/4/2006 3:16:49 AM
""dude i thought u would turn ur other cheek around and let me c**P all over you:remember gandhi.but you have been refuting my statements with german grit.just a doubt-would u allow me to kick ur butt a second time if i kicked it once? i just wanna see if u practice wat u preach.anybody can talk the talk..lets see if u can walk the walk.by the way i still beg u to grow up.please.lets not make this forum a place to settle petty personal scores.lets get back to the topic of hindi movies."" Firstly i am Gandhi Admirer and not a FOLLOWER of what he preached. I admire him for what he did for India and its freedom struggle. Lets leave it that coz i dont believe u would understand anyway my admiration of him. ABout kickin my butt. Sonny if u would that u would get it back double hard and may be it would knock some sense in ya ;) Kidding here friend. I aint a Gandhi follower, u can bet on that... and this sure aint the 1930s ... No man i cant walk the walk, but i can sure talk the talk, as u put it:) Nothing personal with you. Just ur views about Gandhi which are basically wrong, but u can believe what you want. yes lets get back to Hindi movies. They dont make them as they used to before. Too much skin lousy storyline, and whole lotta song and dance sequence to bear for three plus hours. Most storylines are old, nothing creative. Hindi film industry should not pay heed if any of its movies gets Oscar or not. Movies which come up for oscars dont have the same kind of routine as Hindi film industry has. So it is doubtful if they will get any Oscars in the future too.
 
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opposition2006    honneymoon on gandhis stump   4/4/2006 4:58:50 AM
Hi friends and foes,nationalists and critical nationalists.I am sorry to have raised the comparison on Gandhi and Udham Sigh in the context of bollywood films and the roots of the kind of garbage that it proudly recycles. Life as well as history and culture is paradoxical and extremely difficult to accept the same. But, speaking about the concepts of your nationalistic debate seems to be shallow. The point is which Gandhi/or BHARAT ever spoke about LAND REFORMs. I heared the vallabh bhai comment.But I repeat Land reform in Post Independent India only took place in Kashmir, Kerela, Partially in West Bengal. The zamindars/dalal industrialists would only support one who does not unsettle their exploitative game. But just imagine if the British left India but kept a small control over West Bengal as the Hong Kong of India. Then we would have a tough time defending our nationalist selves. Unfortunately we created Kashmir Syndrome. Ofcourse It was Gandhi's Poltically Hysterical Freedom Movement that kicked out the Britishers, who were only 1% of the total population, out of India. Quit India Movement. But can you Imgine that there were only 1% of Britishers living in India Post 1858, and Gandhi refused to lead this maddenning crowd to attack this well equipped petty British Indian army. This PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER is the catch of Indian freedom Movement. And Dear Jawan how many gold medals from Olympics have the Defence contributed to India. The Indian Defence Generals should be content with the vulgour growth of the defence budget in a nation that desperately demands massive Budget allocations for sincerely pursuing compulsary Higher secondary education to every citizen. This maneuovore needed to be done through Intelligent Diplomacy by a mutual ceasefire with its neighbouring countries ,stall the defence budget and and syphon money into the education to all both in India and Pakistan. I shall pursue the National politics of conservative/moderate Bollywood films in future posts. Hum sabka Bharat Mahan.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:MUST SEE!!!!!!!   4/5/2006 10:53:15 PM
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mithradates    The Chinese opinion....to Jawan and EFY   4/16/2006 12:05:17 AM
Jawan, for once I actually respect your opinions. Imho, Ghandi was a leader whose deeds transcends the vast majority of rulers in human history. The British was running their India colony at a net gain. There was no financial reason for them the leave at all. Ghandi was able to achieve the liberation of his people from the global empire without bloodshed, that is greatness. Obviously what his successors did with your country is pretty unflattering to say the least, but Ghandi did more than could be excepted of most leaders, certainly all historical Chinese leaders at any rate. EggFooYoung, I had always known that you weren't Chinese, but you also seem to loathe your own leader who actually deserves great respect. This is coming from an "evil chicom" that you somehow think to be your enemy.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:The Chinese opinion....to mithradates   4/16/2006 5:12:22 AM
EggFooYoung, I had always known that you weren't Chinese, but you also seem to loathe your own leader who actually deserves great respect. This is coming from an "evil chicom" that you somehow think to be your enemy.______----------?>>> i will settle the issue of my ethnicity for once and for all.i am half indian and half chinese.that said,mithra,u can now sleep peacefully.
 
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