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Subject: Why Hindi films never win any international awards
musloko-maro    3/29/2006 4:51:59 PM

Oscar is giving awards for the last 78 years, but no Hindi film has ever won any international award. During the 78 years history of Oscar Awards, only 3 Hindi movies were nominated but no movie has won any award so far. The three movies during the last 78 years, nominated for Oscar awards were Mother India, Gandhi, and Lagaan. Not even any Hindi film has ever been selected for any other international awards like Genies Awards.

Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses.

No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films.

In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work.

There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages.

Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri

Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people.

In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley?s Believe it or Not:

?Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.?

There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all.

By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga ? all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga ? they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga ? the five letters beginning with Pa ? they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence ? what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world.

By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat.

Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words.

Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi.

These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi.

Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc.

Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willing to make English as their national language but not Hindi. I just don't understand why there is so much hatred against Hindi. They watch Hindi movies but when it comes to promoting the Hindi language, they always back-off. People who degrade their own language can never be expected to do any good thing for their country.

All the media and commercial people make use of Hindi for making money but they do not contribute to promote Hindi. I am fully convinced that the promotion of Hindi would do us and our children good.

A very serious Hindu situation in Bharat.

What Bharat got today is not Independence but lawlessness, sham constitution, over 50% illiteracy, and corrupt lawmakers. BHARAT MERA MAHAN. Film industry does not take up such topics.

Look at these Hindi media people, who claim to promote Bharatiya culture 'exclusively' through English language. These media people are not promoting any culture except promoting themselves for making fast money. These media people have no pride in Bharat.

The knowledge of the Hindi media people of the culturally important Bharatiya monuments begs belief and their grasp topics for 'cultural promotion' is dictated by their search for making quick money.

For Bharatiya people, these are the enemies of Bharat and Bhaaratiyataa.

Shame on Hindi film Industry

One wonders why Bollywood industry is known as Hindi films industry. Hindi films use more Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and English than Hindi words. Cast of Hind film is in English, while it is a norm in the world that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made. Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Now days many films do not bother even to write the name of Hindi film in Hindi. Even no where Hindi is written on the covers of DVD, audio cassettes, even on posters of Hindi films.

All the people associated with Hindi film industry do not like even to speak in Hindi, although these people make films in so called Hindi (actually now a days it is more English / Urdu) films). In February 2006, a film festival took place in Germany. In this film festival, Yash Chopra was a member of Jury.

Germany broadcasts program in Hindi once a day for 45 minutes. Hindi of Radio German is just Chalu Hindi usually spoken by road Chaap, uneducated or less educated people but it is still known as Hindi program,

In its Hindi service, Radio German invited Yash Chopra for a talk. In this program Yash Chopra spoke only in English. He forgot that he was invited to Hindi program as he makes films which are called Hindi but contains more English.

Some time ago Shah Rukh was also invited by Radio German in its Hindi service. Shah Rukh Khan spoke very few words in Hindi, but mainly he spoke in English.

Why these English slave Hindi media people do not move to England and live there, or why they make films in Hindi if they are to promote English all the time?

Shame on people associated with Hindi film industry, who promotes English at every step rather than promoting Hindi. For Hindi film media, Hindi is just like a prostitute, all the Hindi media people live on the earning made through prostitute. Hindi media people are no more than Bhaduaas.

These bhaudaas not only get money by illegal methods, but spread English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu in the world.

Hindi films must carry cast in Hindi

In the world there is a system that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English.

Not only that even on the covers of DVD's no where Hindi is written. AT one time it used to be written that language of film is Hindi. Now that section has been converted to Title of film. While name of film is written all around in English, in that section where word Hindi was written in English there is also name of film in English.

If some unknown person sees the DVD, he/she will think it is English film.

Nowadays there is more English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu than Hindi in Hindi films. In the two most recent films Devkai and 15 - Park Ave. more English is spoken than Hindi.

Now a days many Americans also want to learn Hindi. If they never see how Hindi is written, then how they would learn Hindi?

One British girl whose father was from Uttar Pradesh wanted to learn Hindi. She saw more than Hundred Hindi films, but still cannot tell how Hindi is written. She just picked few Urdu words from Hindi films.

Are the Bharatiya people still slave people?

But Bharatiya people are still dhimmitude people.

A language can only spread if it is visible all around. By teaching Hindi in schools will play its part, but the main point is it must be seen all around.

Hindi can be seen all round if:-

Hindi films and TV programs give cast in Hindi

Commercial people write Hindi on at least 50% part of the labels

Sign boards are in Hindi

Leaflets and flyers are in Hindi

Hindi is written on the wrapping materials and packing boxes

Shop keepers put their signs in Hindi

Newspapers and magazines show that part of advertisement where Hindi is written and some other such steps.

Hindi Language must be included in US schools curriculum, in all the schools of Bharat and in those countries where Bharatiya people live. There are many, many such schools in Bharat where Hindi is not taught.

Until some laws are made, no film producer will give cast of Hindi film in Hindi, commercial people would not write Hindi on the labels of their products.

Bharatiya government should make some laws which would force Hindi film producers to give cast of Hindi films in Hindi, write Hindi on the covers of the DVDs. Actors must speak pure Hindi in Hindi films free from English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu languages.

Hindi is national language of Bharat. It is the duty of all ministers and government officers to promote and spread pure Hindi.

All ministers, Chief Ministers, members of parliament, members of assemblies must take some steps which would promote Hindi and make Hindi visible all around.

Hindi media people are slave people

All the Hindi media people bring Pakistanis on air in their Hindi services. For all Pakistani journalists even Urdu is Hindi language. No Pakistani journalist can speak Hindi.

On the top of that, when Hindi journalist start asking questions from Pakistani journalists, they start speaking Urdu in stead of Hindi in their Hindi service. If Pakistani journalists are speaking in Hindi programs, even then they should be able to understand Hindi. Hindi journalists pay more attention to the Urdu knowledge of Pakistani journalists than keeping in mind the Hindi listeners. They forget that they have more than million Hindi listeners, and many Hindi listeners would not understand the spoken Urdu by Hindi journalists and Pakistani journalists. The Hindi journalists keep in mind Pakistani journalists than the Hindi listeners, who may not understand their spoken Urdu. Hindi journalists spread more Urdu and make Urdu words more popular than Hindi words.

But all Hindi journalists are slave people and have dimwitted views.

When they talk to their former colonial masters for Hindi service, then in stead talking in Hindi Bharatiya journalists start talking in Urdu or English as the case may be.

These slave Hindi journalist people spread mental slavery amongst Hindi listeners.

Media people must stop using URDU and English words for Hindi because we have our own rich vocabulary in Hindi then why should we use Urdu which is the national language of Pakistan and the Muslims adore it.

Hindi films do not spread Hindi by ignoring Hindi in the films. Looking at the amount of Urdu, Arabic, Farsi, Turkish, and English languages used in Hindi films, a Pakistani acquaintance remarked that Hindi films will destroy Hindi one day in near future due to putting so much filth in Hindi films. All Hindi film producers, actor/ actresses, and other people associated with Hindi film industry deserve death sentences for not giving proper messages to the public according to the vulture of Bharat and for not providing Hindi in Hindi films.

For winning any international award, just boy meet a girl or a girl meet a boy, or just by copying western world, or showing Bharat a nation of Hijdas or not showing any originality, Bharat will never get any international award.

For winning any international award, film industry will have to make films based on Bharatiya culture and showing the greatness of Bharatiya culture, civilization and languages. Media people still show still a sort of mentally slave nation of Bharatiya people. Slave people do not get respect; slave nations do not get recognization or awards.

Hindi films show mental slavery of Bharat from every respect. Hindi films Film has to show the independence of Bharat by completely abolishing English and Urdu from Hindi films and showing originality in its all films rather than copying western world in any respect what so ever.

We Bharatiya people are so unfortunate that we were kept away from Sanskrit and the Vedas, due to the western education systems we were following blindly, trying to copy anything and everything of western systems, which do not have much spiritual base. The Bharatiya media is also trying to spread western systems all the time. It is our duty to pass on our great heritage ("Paithrukam") to the next generation by all sorts of media.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 10:52:56 PM
Secondly I do not revere the Mahatma rather I admire his convictions and what he did for us lot. As for your reasons which u put up on previous for what most Indians believe about the Mahatma, well they are misplaced and so is ur understanding about him and India's Independence struggle.------------>>>>>>> ------not to belittle you,but your knowledege of india's independence struggle is limited to lopsided sources which appeal to the western liberals as well as indian millions who choose to play by what they have been "fed"rather than investigate and question.your attitude shows ur among the "millions"so i leave you to that. ------gandhi had millions of followers"----- ...so do laloo prasad,mulayam and phoolan?quoting numbers in indian context has no significance at all...everything that happens there-millions are involved.as opposed to other developed nations where human quantity is valued and respected.2 israeli or u.s troops killed gets all media attention whereas 25 bsf jawans mutilated doesnt even get noticed in the country of millions.so there goes....
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 11:16:05 PM
I do not know where u r located, but I guess India Media would be accesible to u, if you are one of those second, third generation NRIs. If you watch the India medial, NET, telly, etc. U may not say that about the BSF jawans. I myself belong to a Forces family. I perhaps more than you understand and appreciate the sacrifice made by our Jawans from Army, Navy, Air force, BSF, ITBP, home guards, the police, the CRPF, CISF et all. I stay in India and am more intuned to developments here and also have pretty accurate knowledge of our Independent struggle( my Grandfather and his brothers were freedom fighters. They have told me their personal experiences and I do not rely on "o lopsided sources which appeal to the western liberals "). Untold millions in India are not fools to believe anything from any tom, dick, and harry. I do not know what info "ur sources" have "FED" to u, but I guess it would difficult to convince you. So, lets leave it at that. You comaparing Gandhi with laloo, phollan et all shows that u certainly do not know what u r talking about. So, lets leave it at that. "Other developed nations where human quantity is valued and respected.2 israeli or u.s troops killed gets all media attention"" Human quantity is valued in the western countries??? News to me . May be white skinned ones have some value, other fairly doubt it. Man u need to come visiting the developed countries. Come out of the sanitized classrooms from where u got ur education from and see the world in a new light. May knowledge dawn upon u??? Mera Bharat Mahan.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/3/2006 1:27:10 AM
u post sounds more like mainland indians making fuss over "insensible" nri's who dont know much about india.FALSE. grow up.put such assumptions to rest.u didnt really understand what i was saying didn't ya?i did not disrespect indian jawans.none of us do.the failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect.the fact that most of u would rather pay attention to "indian idol" than the plight of jawans brings disrespect.u need to take a good look at whats goin on around you.and please!!!by signing off saying"mera bharat mahan"are u implying u are the sole custodian of india's interests here?gimme a break!!GROW UP!! p.s- my grandfather served in para regiment in 1960's based in agra cantt.he was in pathankot when paki sabre jets first attacked the airfield in '67.he was also in the ladhak theatre during chinese agression.that doesnt mean i will stop criticizing india.indians should stop this sycophancy of anything 'gandhi'.its just b.s!
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/3/2006 1:56:40 AM
'""""p.s- my grandfather served in para regiment in 1960's based in agra cantt.he was in pathankot when paki sabre jets first attacked the airfield in '67.he was also in the ladhak theatre during chinese agression.that doesnt mean ""i will stop criticizing india.indians should stop this sycophancy of anything 'gandhi'.its just b.s!"""" I am sure ur Grandfather will be real PROUD of the crapy bull u espouse!!! """Sycophancy of Gandhi"""". He is the father of nation. Bet u dont understand the meaning of that now, DO U??? """and please!!!by signing off saying"mera bharat mahan"are u implying u are the sole custodian of india's interests here?gimme a break!!GROW UP!!"" Not me, but I guess u SURE are the custodian of India's interest aren't U??? Ur posts seem like that. ""u post sounds more like mainland indians making fuss over "insensible" nri's who dont know much about india.FALSE. grow up.put such assumptions to rest.u didnt really understand what i was saying didn't ya?i did not disrespect indian jawans.none of us do.the failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect.the fact that most of u would rather pay attention to "indian idol" than the plight of jawans brings disrespect.u need to take a good look at whats goin on around you."" Indian IDOL what the hell is that??????? LOL I pretty much no what is going around me. I bet u do not know wat is going on in INdia though. Talking about some stupid show in some channel and generalizing as if most Indians are glued watching it rather than doing anyhing meaningful Cricket yes, but certainly not anything else. "Insensible NRI" = U hit the ball right there. Sooo right!! "Mainland INDIANS". What the hell is that? wat u located in Andamans or lakshwadeep???? """failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect."" Gimme an example of this statement.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:GANDHI ADMIRER GONE WILD!!!   4/3/2006 7:35:04 AM
dude i thought u would turn ur other cheek around and let me c**P all over you:remember gandhi.but you have been refuting my statements with german grit.just a doubt-would u allow me to kick ur butt a second time if i kicked it once? i just wanna see if u practice wat u preach.anybody can talk the talk..lets see if u can walk the walk.by the way i still beg u to grow up.please.lets not make this forum a place to settle petty personal scores.lets get back to the topic of hindi movies.
 
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olive greens    RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards   4/3/2006 1:47:03 PM
>> Shorter the sweeter. Ja, Howl! Herr Oberst! Like a miniskirt! LOL!!! << Promoted me to a full colonel, did you? Cut straight to the cream, eh?
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards   4/4/2006 12:07:18 AM
I don't think the Oscars like musicals much, I've only seen parts of some bollywood movies and they all seem to be musicals. Even if there is a significant story in the movies people outside of the region might not be able to pick it out from all of the singing and dancing.
 
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Jawan    RE:GANDHI ADMIRER and Not a FOLLOWER!!!!   4/4/2006 3:16:49 AM
""dude i thought u would turn ur other cheek around and let me c**P all over you:remember gandhi.but you have been refuting my statements with german grit.just a doubt-would u allow me to kick ur butt a second time if i kicked it once? i just wanna see if u practice wat u preach.anybody can talk the talk..lets see if u can walk the walk.by the way i still beg u to grow up.please.lets not make this forum a place to settle petty personal scores.lets get back to the topic of hindi movies."" Firstly i am Gandhi Admirer and not a FOLLOWER of what he preached. I admire him for what he did for India and its freedom struggle. Lets leave it that coz i dont believe u would understand anyway my admiration of him. ABout kickin my butt. Sonny if u would that u would get it back double hard and may be it would knock some sense in ya ;) Kidding here friend. I aint a Gandhi follower, u can bet on that... and this sure aint the 1930s ... No man i cant walk the walk, but i can sure talk the talk, as u put it:) Nothing personal with you. Just ur views about Gandhi which are basically wrong, but u can believe what you want. yes lets get back to Hindi movies. They dont make them as they used to before. Too much skin lousy storyline, and whole lotta song and dance sequence to bear for three plus hours. Most storylines are old, nothing creative. Hindi film industry should not pay heed if any of its movies gets Oscar or not. Movies which come up for oscars dont have the same kind of routine as Hindi film industry has. So it is doubtful if they will get any Oscars in the future too.
 
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opposition2006    honneymoon on gandhis stump   4/4/2006 4:58:50 AM
Hi friends and foes,nationalists and critical nationalists.I am sorry to have raised the comparison on Gandhi and Udham Sigh in the context of bollywood films and the roots of the kind of garbage that it proudly recycles. Life as well as history and culture is paradoxical and extremely difficult to accept the same. But, speaking about the concepts of your nationalistic debate seems to be shallow. The point is which Gandhi/or BHARAT ever spoke about LAND REFORMs. I heared the vallabh bhai comment.But I repeat Land reform in Post Independent India only took place in Kashmir, Kerela, Partially in West Bengal. The zamindars/dalal industrialists would only support one who does not unsettle their exploitative game. But just imagine if the British left India but kept a small control over West Bengal as the Hong Kong of India. Then we would have a tough time defending our nationalist selves. Unfortunately we created Kashmir Syndrome. Ofcourse It was Gandhi's Poltically Hysterical Freedom Movement that kicked out the Britishers, who were only 1% of the total population, out of India. Quit India Movement. But can you Imgine that there were only 1% of Britishers living in India Post 1858, and Gandhi refused to lead this maddenning crowd to attack this well equipped petty British Indian army. This PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER is the catch of Indian freedom Movement. And Dear Jawan how many gold medals from Olympics have the Defence contributed to India. The Indian Defence Generals should be content with the vulgour growth of the defence budget in a nation that desperately demands massive Budget allocations for sincerely pursuing compulsary Higher secondary education to every citizen. This maneuovore needed to be done through Intelligent Diplomacy by a mutual ceasefire with its neighbouring countries ,stall the defence budget and and syphon money into the education to all both in India and Pakistan. I shall pursue the National politics of conservative/moderate Bollywood films in future posts. Hum sabka Bharat Mahan.
 
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mithradates    The Chinese opinion....to Jawan and EFY   4/16/2006 12:05:17 AM
Jawan, for once I actually respect your opinions. Imho, Ghandi was a leader whose deeds transcends the vast majority of rulers in human history. The British was running their India colony at a net gain. There was no financial reason for them the leave at all. Ghandi was able to achieve the liberation of his people from the global empire without bloodshed, that is greatness. Obviously what his successors did with your country is pretty unflattering to say the least, but Ghandi did more than could be excepted of most leaders, certainly all historical Chinese leaders at any rate. EggFooYoung, I had always known that you weren't Chinese, but you also seem to loathe your own leader who actually deserves great respect. This is coming from an "evil chicom" that you somehow think to be your enemy.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:The Chinese opinion....to mithradates   4/16/2006 5:12:22 AM
EggFooYoung, I had always known that you weren't Chinese, but you also seem to loathe your own leader who actually deserves great respect. This is coming from an "evil chicom" that you somehow think to be your enemy.______----------?>>> i will settle the issue of my ethnicity for once and for all.i am half indian and half chinese.that said,mithra,u can now sleep peacefully.
 
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