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Subject: Why Hindi films never win any international awards
musloko-maro    3/29/2006 4:51:59 PM
Oscar is giving awards for the last 78 years, but no Hindi film has ever won any international award. During the 78 years history of Oscar Awards, only 3 Hindi movies were nominated but no movie has won any award so far. The three movies during the last 78 years, nominated for Oscar awards were Mother India, Gandhi, and Lagaan. Not even any Hindi film has ever been selected for any other international awards like Genies Awards. Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses. No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films. In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work. There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages. Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people. In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley?s Believe it or Not: ?Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.? There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all. By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga ? all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga ? they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga ? the five letters beginning with Pa ? they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence ? what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world. By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat. Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words. Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi. These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi. Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc. Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willi
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 7:36:59 AM
""ind of funny ideology--non-alignment,non-violence..non-sense..result-got whooped by pakistan and china..lost a sizeable amount of territory to them"" THis ideology got India its independence. The so called present generation exists and is independent in voicing its thought is because of that IDeology. Nehru's policy led to the loss of the territory. Nothing to do with Gandhi. Againg do not equate Gandhi wiht nehurvian chamchas et all...
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 7:40:07 AM
They left because of Gandhi's policies and not becuase of WAR!! Get that man!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ hehe..your reverence for "the mahatma" is understandable and i have told you the reason.as far as british quitting india because of gandhi---stop kidding yourself.its as true as "abraham lincoln abolished slavery"..knw what i mean.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 7:45:37 AM
Nehru's policy led to the loss of the territory. Nothing to do with Gandhi. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- right!! thankfully gandhi wasn't around.he would have saved pakistan and china the ammo they spent killing indian soldiers.why war--take what u want... would we even have an india is a doubt,the old man was too idealistic for seperatist politics.nathuram did india an unthankable favor!!!JAI HIND!!
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 10:55:18 AM
""""right!! thankfully gandhi wasn't around.he would have saved pakistan and china the ammo they spent killing indian soldiers.why war--take what u want... would we even have an india is a doubt,the old man was too idealistic for seperatist politics.nathuram did india an unthankable favor!!!JAI HIND!!""" Ur patriotism is misplaced if u admire Nathuram and his "FAVOR". FOlks these days convinently forget what that man did for India. Nehru and his descendents have totally destroyed his idealism and his policies thereby making sure that folks like you believing that Gandhi had everything to do with India's situation during partition and after that. The only Reason there exits PAKILAND today is because Nehru wanted to be the PM and Jinnah Did not want NEHRU To be the PM. Both these idiots ignored Gandhi completely. Pakistan is the Creation of Nehru and Jinnah, period. All others were spectators to this POWER PLAY. Blaming Gandhi pacifism as some kind of an excuse problems and wars that followed because of those problems is WRONG. As for BRITISHERS going coz of WAR, u could not be more wrong there. The policies of Gandhi and his followers did play very big role and convincing them to leave India.
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 10:57:51 AM
""hehe..your reverence for "the mahatma" is understandable and i have told you the reason.as far as british quitting india because of gandhi---stop kidding yourself.its as true as "abraham lincoln abolished slavery"..knw what i mean."" Actually I do not. Secondly I do not revere the Mahatma rather I admire his convictions and what he did for us lot. As for your reasons which u put up on previous for what most Indians believe about the Mahatma, well they are misplaced and so is ur understanding about him and India's Independence struggle.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 10:52:56 PM
Secondly I do not revere the Mahatma rather I admire his convictions and what he did for us lot. As for your reasons which u put up on previous for what most Indians believe about the Mahatma, well they are misplaced and so is ur understanding about him and India's Independence struggle.------------>>>>>>> ------not to belittle you,but your knowledege of india's independence struggle is limited to lopsided sources which appeal to the western liberals as well as indian millions who choose to play by what they have been "fed"rather than investigate and question.your attitude shows ur among the "millions"so i leave you to that. ------gandhi had millions of followers"----- ...so do laloo prasad,mulayam and phoolan?quoting numbers in indian context has no significance at all...everything that happens there-millions are involved.as opposed to other developed nations where human quantity is valued and respected.2 israeli or u.s troops killed gets all media attention whereas 25 bsf jawans mutilated doesnt even get noticed in the country of millions.so there goes....
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/2/2006 11:16:05 PM
I do not know where u r located, but I guess India Media would be accesible to u, if you are one of those second, third generation NRIs. If you watch the India medial, NET, telly, etc. U may not say that about the BSF jawans. I myself belong to a Forces family. I perhaps more than you understand and appreciate the sacrifice made by our Jawans from Army, Navy, Air force, BSF, ITBP, home guards, the police, the CRPF, CISF et all. I stay in India and am more intuned to developments here and also have pretty accurate knowledge of our Independent struggle( my Grandfather and his brothers were freedom fighters. They have told me their personal experiences and I do not rely on "o lopsided sources which appeal to the western liberals "). Untold millions in India are not fools to believe anything from any tom, dick, and harry. I do not know what info "ur sources" have "FED" to u, but I guess it would difficult to convince you. So, lets leave it at that. You comaparing Gandhi with laloo, phollan et all shows that u certainly do not know what u r talking about. So, lets leave it at that. "Other developed nations where human quantity is valued and respected.2 israeli or u.s troops killed gets all media attention"" Human quantity is valued in the western countries??? News to me . May be white skinned ones have some value, other fairly doubt it. Man u need to come visiting the developed countries. Come out of the sanitized classrooms from where u got ur education from and see the world in a new light. May knowledge dawn upon u??? Mera Bharat Mahan.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/3/2006 1:27:10 AM
u post sounds more like mainland indians making fuss over "insensible" nri's who dont know much about india.FALSE. grow up.put such assumptions to rest.u didnt really understand what i was saying didn't ya?i did not disrespect indian jawans.none of us do.the failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect.the fact that most of u would rather pay attention to "indian idol" than the plight of jawans brings disrespect.u need to take a good look at whats goin on around you.and please!!!by signing off saying"mera bharat mahan"are u implying u are the sole custodian of india's interests here?gimme a break!!GROW UP!! p.s- my grandfather served in para regiment in 1960's based in agra cantt.he was in pathankot when paki sabre jets first attacked the airfield in '67.he was also in the ladhak theatre during chinese agression.that doesnt mean i will stop criticizing india.indians should stop this sycophancy of anything 'gandhi'.its just b.s!
 
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Jawan    RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump   4/3/2006 1:56:40 AM
'""""p.s- my grandfather served in para regiment in 1960's based in agra cantt.he was in pathankot when paki sabre jets first attacked the airfield in '67.he was also in the ladhak theatre during chinese agression.that doesnt mean ""i will stop criticizing india.indians should stop this sycophancy of anything 'gandhi'.its just b.s!"""" I am sure ur Grandfather will be real PROUD of the crapy bull u espouse!!! """Sycophancy of Gandhi"""". He is the father of nation. Bet u dont understand the meaning of that now, DO U??? """and please!!!by signing off saying"mera bharat mahan"are u implying u are the sole custodian of india's interests here?gimme a break!!GROW UP!!"" Not me, but I guess u SURE are the custodian of India's interest aren't U??? Ur posts seem like that. ""u post sounds more like mainland indians making fuss over "insensible" nri's who dont know much about india.FALSE. grow up.put such assumptions to rest.u didnt really understand what i was saying didn't ya?i did not disrespect indian jawans.none of us do.the failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect.the fact that most of u would rather pay attention to "indian idol" than the plight of jawans brings disrespect.u need to take a good look at whats goin on around you."" Indian IDOL what the hell is that??????? LOL I pretty much no what is going around me. I bet u do not know wat is going on in INdia though. Talking about some stupid show in some channel and generalizing as if most Indians are glued watching it rather than doing anyhing meaningful Cricket yes, but certainly not anything else. "Insensible NRI" = U hit the ball right there. Sooo right!! "Mainland INDIANS". What the hell is that? wat u located in Andamans or lakshwadeep???? """failure of ur government to take punitive action is what brings disrespect."" Gimme an example of this statement.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:GANDHI ADMIRER GONE WILD!!!   4/3/2006 7:35:04 AM
dude i thought u would turn ur other cheek around and let me c**P all over you:remember gandhi.but you have been refuting my statements with german grit.just a doubt-would u allow me to kick ur butt a second time if i kicked it once? i just wanna see if u practice wat u preach.anybody can talk the talk..lets see if u can walk the walk.by the way i still beg u to grow up.please.lets not make this forum a place to settle petty personal scores.lets get back to the topic of hindi movies.
 
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