Why Hindi films never win any international awards

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olive greens RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards 3/29/2006 7:39:39 PM

Lets see some reasons that pop easily... 1. General Audience: All foreign movies suck ~ easier to watch a 12 minute Irani duck flight than 3 1/2 hours of Hindi movies and get it over with. Shorter the sweeter. NOTE: General audience dont spend money on foreign films. 2. Normal guys can while away with Hong Kong or Japanese action flicks at the most. NOTE: If you are going to knock-off Matrix do remember we loved Trinity kick @ss just as much as Neo ~ Akshay Kumar is neither Neo nor Trinity... shouldnt he be some kind of '80 Van Dam??? 3. Normal girls still havent figured out the way to the nearest Indian store. NOTE: Its always a good thing that they havent figured out something... even to the third-party there is an element of self-interest: they usually drive the prices up and quality down. 4. The "artsy" types prefer the more faggy movies which no self-respecting Indian mafia don will fund. NOTE: That doesnt mean err certain producers will continue doing them anyway, but are those really "Indian"??? 5. How many "Best Foreign Film" awards have been given out by the much larger, popular and hence more influential Bollywood? NOTE: Gotta hook 'em with lil samplers... PS: There are many sounds not covered in Devanagari (!-inverted sound, as !Kung people, is replicable by any baby yet it figures in almost no written language originally), and many sounds are not original to Devanagari either (z is most obvious one picked up from the barbarians). Devanagari is indeed an advanced form of scripting, but its nowhere close to being comprehensive.

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eggfooyoung RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards 3/30/2006 12:10:26 AM

a very relavent topic indeed.hindi films are by and large low of quality and high on glitter.they are regularly churned out by the low IQ industry to entertain borderline IQ majorities who patronize this crap and try to portray these movies as a microcasm of indian way of life.no wonder americans think hindi movies have actresses dancing with gay men.why even the name"bollywood "is a cheap imitation of HOLLYWOOD.clearly demonstrates total lack of ingenuinity and creativity.all these bollywood chootiyas should be sent to a bootcamp where they can grow up and act like men not like whoring transvertites on sunset blvd.

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musloko-maro RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards 3/30/2006 9:26:01 PM

hindi films are by and large low of quality and high on glitter.they are regularly churned out by the low IQ industry to entertain borderline IQ majorities who patronize this crap and try to portray these movies as a microcasm of indian way of life.no wonder americans think hindi movies have actresses dancing with gay men.why even the name"bollywood "is a cheap imitation of HOLLYWOOD.clearly demonstrates total lack of ingenuinity and creativity.all these bollywood chootiyas should be sent to a bootcamp where they can grow up and act like men not like whoring transvertites on sunset blvd. Thank you, a sincere & hearfelt one! And one of the best posts I have read in these fora. Again, the problem with Hindi film producers, Hindi writers, Hindi directors and all the nine yards.....their utter lack of trait to be Bharatiya The artificiality of a typical Hindi movie(as a matter of fact all most all Indian movies) is unpardonable, and stinks sky-high! I watched an oldie, Do Aanke Bara Haath about condemned prisoners and a possible jail break and/or murder of the Jailer/Warden. Except for certain Urdu phrases, the movie was a well attempted production, set in the back drop of harsh realities, possibly in Brit ruled India. I can understand documentaries and short film productions. Even if you send all the "Hollywood chutiyas" to bootcamp, there in nothing you can improve! After all, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. We need more and more Satyajit Roys for ingenuinity and creativity

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musloko-maro RE:Why Hindi films never win any international awards 3/30/2006 9:38:10 PM

Shorter the sweeter. Ja, Howl! Herr Oberst! Like a miniskirt! LOL!!! Normal girls still havent figured out the way to the nearest Indian store. NOTE: Its always a good thing that they havent figured out something... even to the third-party there is an element of self-interest: they usually drive the prices up and quality down. No need! They google any search. Online purchases with credit cards and delivered to your door step! Can't do much on third party, but piracy is again sky-high! How many "Best Foreign Film" awards have been given out by the much larger, popular and hence more influential Bollywood? NOTE: Gotta hook 'em with lil samplers... You have a good point. But the reciprocity process was still born, and no body attempted another birth even thru insemination for this dead project. Also the Indian viewership of 'phoren' films was more limited to the skin, rather then plots/stories/events. There were many exceptions. 10 Commandments, My Fair Lady, Sound of Music, Longest Day, to name a few. Likewise, old, old Indian movies(1920s & early 30s) black/white and even the (non)talking ones had a fairly good response amidst the discerning viewers.

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opposition2006 to hell/o with you Hollywood champions 4/1/2006 9:20:21 AM

Bollywood as recently turned, film industry, for long has been recycling global culture garbage/trash. Yes bollywood is trash. But remember darlings this recycling of global cultural garbage generates 100 miilion only from the overseas foreign exchange, leave alone the Indian Box office revenue. Yes Bollywood films do not have public message( that is a different story), so what? There are also billions of cultural ragpickers all over the world who appreciate this manufactured cheapness.So folks it is you who are missing the point and not Bollywood.

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olive greens RE:to hell/o with you Hollywood champions 4/1/2006 11:59:17 AM

>> So folks it is you who are missing the point and not Bollywood. << Speaking of "missing the point"... you do realize we revert to default b!tching every once-in-a-while after a massive Pak-purge, dont you? Hell I will take a 24-hour dose of mind-numbing Arnie movies any day over 15 minutes of some of this years' Oscar winners... by the same token I will watch any number of cheap Hindi action-flicks over some of the movies that supposedly have "class" {like the Satyajit Ray's movies MM mentioned}. But my point is its IS possible to make block-busters + action-movies + win "artsy awards"... the best way to do that would be to by-pass established Bollywood and go into Anime-style productions.

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eggfooyoung RE:to hell/o with you Hollywood champions 4/1/2006 7:05:38 PM

hollywood champions?who r u refering to?no one here said they were hollywood champions!all we are saying is bollywood churns out third-rate crass which is eagerly lapped up by home-sick/"where do i belong"/bindi and henna tattoo is cool" type nri's and of course the abundant morose populace in india which is completely ignorant of indian history and culture.couple that with an utter lack of musical taste and u have likes of chopras and shah's and anu maliks tasting success at the cost of our nation being portrayed as bizzare and hypocrite.as for cultural ragpickers...well,u said it..they are ragpickers!if a nation of 1 billion can only make movies fit only for ragpickers,thats not a credible acheivement at all,given the revenues they earn and the fact that they make a prostitute look like a princess(devdas).couple that with shah rukh with his stammering and eunuch like behaviour being casted as ashoka.holy !! what kind of morons would watch this kind of for 3 f***in hours and pay for it.hindi chhotiyas should be taught to keep in mind indias emerging role in the modern world while making movies.appearences go a long way in foreign relations.hollywood should be praised because they have always portrayed united states in good light.they are the unofficial propaganda machine of this country and they make the whiole world think highly of the united states.

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opposition2006 honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 1:40:17 AM

eagerly lapped up by home-sick/"where do i belong"/bindi and henna tattoo is cool" type nri's and of course the abundant morose populace in india which is completely ignorant of indian history and culture... You have the statistics but you refuse to draw sensible conclusion. You do mention loss of memeory about history. Do you have the correct sense of history or that you too easily surrender to the conditions of awarded films. Let me clarify, as much Bollywood copies from Hollywood, Hollywood copies from European films. This is euro-american film-history that you should check in the net. Becuse awarded films do not have financial sustainability to run an entire film idustry. Europeans now desperately are promoting Bollywood films and they genuinely see the ironical parody that the Global superstar Govinda/David Dhavan, whom I beleive you people view as an hypocrit, creates towards the rich, the elites...in a national atmosphere of stiffling beurocracy. You people totally overlook the choking artificiality of Karan Johars-a master of fetish, Familial dramatic film, "Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gum". You people are not ready to see the film but view it as biased judges. See, the first world recycles only profitable waste in its own country, the rest of the hazardous garbage is militaristically imposed upon other third world nations. So to dump this garbage the host-nation has to undergo through an historical amnesia, loss of memmory, otherwise no dignified nation will allow that garbagge to be dumped inside ones own geographical/cultural/intellectual territory. But we do know that the biohazardous wastes are regularly exported to these third world nations and the third world nations creates billion dollar buisness out of recycling them, often with high casuality. Bollyood the KING OF GARBAGGE FILMS ,is a formidable financial and cultural threat to western authentic, intelligent,hygenic,sincere Hollywood or in that case, awarded films. Saroj Khan was awarded by the european film fraternity. I beleive you dont care for hennas,thumkas, latkey jhatkey,HIJRA style of Dance and Acting. India as a nation sacrificed the parallel/middle dignified cinema in order to maintain its loyalist, moderate political History with the in coming of Globalisation. This is a land of Gokhale and not Tilak, of Gandhi and not the terrorist Udham Singh, while Canada spends double the amount for 100 million canadian dollars on experimental films to feature films. To create awarded films you need a sensetive recipient culture, till that time atleast make some profitable ones.

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eggfooyoung RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 5:14:08 AM

well,u made your argument.---"This is a land of Gokhale and not Tilak, of Gandhi and not the terrorist Udham Singh"-----is that your personal opinion or is an attempt to fathom the national sentiment? either way you have got it wrong.the emerging middle-class indian youth do not have a gandhi-fixation.if udham singh and bhagat singh were "terrorists" gandhi was britisher's butt-swiper.that he is celebrated as the father of the nation is the biggest farce in indian history next only to the aryan invasion theory.lets see...this chaloo baniya did nothing but lick british ass and betrayed indian freedom fighters to serve his own agenda.the british left india because they had to after the war.since the only major party during the era was the congress they comfortably took credit and were given a larger than life status by the largely uneducated and ill-informed indian masses of the time.so gandhi the rat became gandhi the father---complete transformation of reality to myth.same could have happened with "sonia maataji" only this time the idiots are less in number and the middle class isnt ready to take the crap.a couple of years ago when two/three? movies were made on bhagat singh(rare feat in dhotiwood)..the youth vented out their dislike of gandhi openly in theatres.this generation will not shake their heads to the crap fed by older failed generation of indians.they wagged their tails to their english masters,had some kind of funny ideology--non-alignment,non-violence..non-sense..result-got whooped by pakistan and china..lost a sizeable amount of territory to them and watched by.this generation is ambitious,has pride and knows how to deal with videshis.i am just waiting for the remaining old dhotis in delhi to die and give way to the chanakyas of today.that will be the day the world will see the true power of india. --

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Jawan RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 7:33:13 AM

"""well,u made your argument.---"This is a land of Gokhale and not Tilak, of Gandhi and not the terrorist Udham Singh"-----is that your personal opinion or is an attempt to fathom the national sentiment? either way you have got it wrong.the emerging middle-class indian youth do not have a gandhi-fixation.if udham singh and bhagat singh were "terrorists" gandhi was britisher's butt-swiper.that he is celebrated as the father of the nation is the biggest farce in indian history next only to the aryan invasion theory.lets see...this chaloo baniya did nothing but lick british ass and betrayed indian freedom fighters to serve his own agenda.the british left india because they had to after the war.since the only major party during the era was the congress they comfortably took credit and were given a larger than life status by the largely uneducated and ill-informed indian masses of the time.so gandhi the rat became gandhi the father---complete transformation of reality to myth.same could have happened with "sonia maataji" only this time the idiots are less in number and the middle class isnt ready to take the crap.a couple of years ago when two/three? movies were made on bhagat singh(rare feat in dhotiwood)..the youth vented out their dislike of gandhi openly in theatres.this generation will not shake their heads to the crap fed by older failed generation of indians.they wagged their tails to their english masters,had some kind of funny ideology--non-alignment,non-violence..non-sense..result-got whooped by pakistan and china..lost a sizeable amount of territory to them and watched by.this generation is ambitious,has pride and knows how to deal with videshis.i am just waiting for the remaining old dhotis in delhi to die and give way to the chanakyas of today.that will be the day the world will see the true power of india.""" WOOOWOWOWO, where is this coming FROM!!!! """so gandhi the rat became gandhi the father""" Hold ur horse buddy. Free speech and all is very WELL, but before making a statement like that, get some Knowledge. Denigrating Gandhi is denigrating INDIANS. Millions of Indians who followed him. Do not make the mistake of equating the other congresswallahs with Gandhi. He was different and way above them morally and politically. British squirmed when he walked, British sweated when he fasted, and ultimately had no weapon against Gandhi. They left because of Gandhi's policies and not becuase of WAR!! Get that man!! He is a true Mahatma, and not a "Rat" as you claim wiht ur limited knowledge!!!!

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Jawan RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 7:36:59 AM

""ind of funny ideology--non-alignment,non-violence..non-sense..result-got whooped by pakistan and china..lost a sizeable amount of territory to them"" THis ideology got India its independence. The so called present generation exists and is independent in voicing its thought is because of that IDeology. Nehru's policy led to the loss of the territory. Nothing to do with Gandhi. Againg do not equate Gandhi wiht nehurvian chamchas et all...

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eggfooyoung RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 7:40:07 AM

They left because of Gandhi's policies and not becuase of WAR!! Get that man!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ hehe..your reverence for "the mahatma" is understandable and i have told you the reason.as far as british quitting india because of gandhi---stop kidding yourself.its as true as "abraham lincoln abolished slavery"..knw what i mean.

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eggfooyoung RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 7:45:37 AM

Nehru's policy led to the loss of the territory. Nothing to do with Gandhi. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- right!! thankfully gandhi wasn't around.he would have saved pakistan and china the ammo they spent killing indian soldiers.why war--take what u want... would we even have an india is a doubt,the old man was too idealistic for seperatist politics.nathuram did india an unthankable favor!!!JAI HIND!!

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Jawan RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 10:55:18 AM

""""right!! thankfully gandhi wasn't around.he would have saved pakistan and china the ammo they spent killing indian soldiers.why war--take what u want... would we even have an india is a doubt,the old man was too idealistic for seperatist politics.nathuram did india an unthankable favor!!!JAI HIND!!""" Ur patriotism is misplaced if u admire Nathuram and his "FAVOR". FOlks these days convinently forget what that man did for India. Nehru and his descendents have totally destroyed his idealism and his policies thereby making sure that folks like you believing that Gandhi had everything to do with India's situation during partition and after that. The only Reason there exits PAKILAND today is because Nehru wanted to be the PM and Jinnah Did not want NEHRU To be the PM. Both these idiots ignored Gandhi completely. Pakistan is the Creation of Nehru and Jinnah, period. All others were spectators to this POWER PLAY. Blaming Gandhi pacifism as some kind of an excuse problems and wars that followed because of those problems is WRONG. As for BRITISHERS going coz of WAR, u could not be more wrong there. The policies of Gandhi and his followers did play very big role and convincing them to leave India.

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Jawan RE:honeymoon on a garbage dump 4/2/2006 10:57:51 AM

""hehe..your reverence for "the mahatma" is understandable and i have told you the reason.as far as british quitting india because of gandhi---stop kidding yourself.its as true as "abraham lincoln abolished slavery"..knw what i mean."" Actually I do not. Secondly I do not revere the Mahatma rather I admire his convictions and what he did for us lot. As for your reasons which u put up on previous for what most Indians believe about the Mahatma, well they are misplaced and so is ur understanding about him and India's Independence struggle.

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