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Subject: Is death of Islam certain
enlighten    11/9/2005 7:20:39 PM
Recent incidents in France, Australia and Jordan indicate that there is something terribly wrong with Islam? with such suicide bombing killing innocent lives , I start hating Islam. Anybody knows what is wrong in Islam?
 
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ker       10/8/2008 9:35:33 PM

I admit I haven't read the Koran, but I have read the Old Testament and its pretty much the story of a bunch of Bronze age Barbarians murdering innocent people in the name of "Yahweh".  There are fundy Muslims just the same as there are fundy Christians, and there are Muslims who belive a literal interpretation of a bunch of random fairy tales written by some dude a couple hundred years ago is asinine just like there are Christians who believe literal interpreation of fairy tales about Bronze age Barbarians is moronic.   Its just that until the 2000 election the most fundy Christians were allowed to rule was a local Sheriff's department, while fundy Muslims were allowed to rule entire nations.  If we decided to keep GWB and company in power for the next 100 years, we'd probably be as messed up as most Muslim counties (he's already out to end stem cell research and the theory of evolution as "Offensive in the eyes of Yahweh"), but unlike them we're gonna kick the fundys out after 8 years instead of letting them rule for generations. 


"Its just that until the 2000 election the most fundy Christians were allowed to rule was a local Sheriff's department"
Cute but have you heard of Andrew Jackson.  I think he ran...something. 
 
Maybe you could grace us with your definition of "fundy Christians?" 
 
 
  • The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit.
  • The virgin birth of Christ.
  • The belief that Christ's death was an atonement for sin.
  • The bodily resurrection of Christ.
  • The historical reality of Christ's miracles.
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    Lance Blade       10/9/2008 4:20:02 PM

    Recent incidents in France, Australia and Jordan indicate that there is something terribly wrong with Islam? with such suicide bombing killing innocent lives , I start hating Islam. Anybody knows what is wrong in Islam?

    Blaming this on Islam is like blaming the crusades on Christianity. When your wife and kids are half-starving in a world that's utterly devoid of opportunity and you know neither you nor them have a future, suddenly the idea of getting blown up so they can survive off Al Qaeda's money seems like a reasonable deal. Maybe your 2nd or 3rd generation offspring might even get an education of some sort, at this rate. Likewise, if you are that kid and grew up seeing nothing but war and devastation, and know for a fact that your chances of having a future are about one in a hundred thousand, picking up on the rosy rhetoric of extremist religious sects is all too easy. It's probably as simple as that.
     
    Children of immigrants who grew up in said cultures are even worse. They're removed from the carnage yet still retain bitter feelings held by their fathers, which are all too easy to tap into if they have nothing better to do and live in segregated communities (like in France). It's human nature, plain and simple. Manipulated by people who know how to, who do that for a living. I'm tired of people calling for "an end to Islam". How's that different to "kill the infidels"? As if removing Islam will solve the problem.
     
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    Le Zookeeper       10/10/2008 2:41:41 AM

    Recent incidents in France, Australia and Jordan indicate that there is something terribly wrong with Islam? with such suicide bombing killing innocent lives , I start hating Islam. Anybody knows what is wrong in Islam?


    Just one thing for you to consider- err 2. Islam allows no interest to be levied, so things like derivatives can never happen, and the US gov't has Taleban & Karzai talking together in Saudi, strictly speaking this means that the Mujahadeen have humbled the British, Alexander, Soviets & NATO+USA. And 3rd point the Taleban are financially solvent and have zero debt- I may sound ridiculous but its interesting to note that a simple almost barbaric society can stand and prevail against the most powerful complex societies produced. As somebody once said Keep it simple Stupid- The Mujahadeen have done that and won. Islam is winning not losing. Iran too is close to the bomb.
     
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    play music for me    Islam winning war??   10/18/2008 1:32:23 PM

    re earlier post about taliban or muslims not having any debt is quite laughable. Economically a poorish country in europe such as spain has more industrial output than the entire middle east despite all their oil wealth. Ironically the only reason for any oil wealth is due to the technological advance of the west. The banking system/economic/political system has known shockwaves before. It happened in the 1929 depression and yet 80 years later the situation in the world is what we see today where muslim nations are still basically the bottom of the heap (apart from the oil welfare system). The taliban as an army is not existent however the taliban as a potential force for ruling a bunch of illiterate fools with no future seems very persuasive. Better to give it over as what afghanistan has doesnt justify the expense of being there. Iran with the bomb can be compared to a gangster with a gun. A gun is useful for what it gets for you. Let us see what it gets iran. It wont get them any economic political social benefits but will secure the chains around their much maligned and abused people for a little longer by keeping the ayatollahs in power. Oh I forgot muslims do like to see other muslims in chains all for the sake of islam. Nuclear bombs and massive firepower and superior idealogies to islam have disappeared last century alone so it wont save a failed idealogy either way.

     
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    Barca       10/24/2008 9:05:26 AM


    Blaming this on Islam is like blaming the crusades on Christianity.

    I blame the Crusades on the Moslem's successful assault on the Christian Kingdoms of the Middle East.  If not for the Muslim invasion, there would have been no Crusades.


     
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