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Subject: The famous Himalayan blunder!!!
Genesis    10/19/2005 9:31:49 AM
For over forty years after independence, India was ruled directly or indirectly by the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. As a result, national interest was often sacrificed for personal dynastic interests. On at least three occasions, Nehru sacrificed India's interests for the sake of international glory for himself. First is his well-known blunder of referring Kashmir to the United Nations when Indian troops were on the verge of driving the Pakistanis out of Kashmir. The next was his betrayal of Tibet to please China and gain glory for himself in Korea. The third was his failure to settle the border with China because of his preoccupation with his fantasy of Pancha Sheel. Nehru's colossal blunder in Kashmir is well known, so I will briefly discuss his fiasco in dealing with Tibet and China. But first I want to highlight an important but often overlooked point. It was not Pakistan that created the Kashmir problem. Nehru created the problem with his two blunders: referring Kashmir to the United Nations and agreeing to the present cease fire line or the LOC. At the very least Nehru should have asked for the Indus River as the Line of Control. Similarly, what I want to next is explain that it was not China but again Nehru that created the border problem with China with his multiple blunders. With his blunder upon blunder Nehru sacrificed thousands of lives- both soldiers and civilians. His grandson Rajiv Gandhi contributed his own share of blunders by sending Indian troops into Sri Lanka unprepared. Let me next examine the Chinese scene. Nehru and the China-Tibet blunder In the year 1950, two momentous events shook Asia and the world. One was the Chinese invasion of Tibet, and the other, Chinese intervention in the Korean War. The first was near, on India's borders, the other, far away in the Korean Peninsula where India had little at stake. By all canons of logic, India should have devoted utmost attention to the immediate situation in Tibet, and let interested parties like China and the U.S. sort it out in Korea. But Jawaharlal Nehru, India's Prime Minister, did exactly the opposite. He treated the Tibetan crisis in a haphazard fashion, while getting heavily involved in Korea. India today is paying for this folly by being the only country of its size in the world without an official boundary with its giant neighbor. Tibet soon disappeared from the map. As in Kashmir, Nehru sacrificed national interest at home in pursuit of international glory abroad. India at the time maintained missions in Lhasa and Gyangtse. Due to the close relations that existed between India and Tibet going back centuries and also because of the unsettled conditions in China, Tibet's transactions with the outside world were conducted mainly through India. Well into 1950, the Indian Government regarded Tibet as a free country. The Chinese announced their invasion of Tibet on 25 October 1950. According to them, it was to 'free Tibet from imperialist forces', and consolidate its border with India. Nehru announced that he and the Indian Government were "extremely perplexed and disappointed with the Chinese Government's action..." Nehru also complained that he had been "led to believe by the Chinese Foreign Office that the Chinese would settle the future of Tibet in a peaceful manner by direct negotiation with the representatives of Tibet..." This was not true, for in September 1949, more than a year before the Chinese invasion, Nehru himself had written: "Chinese communists are likely to invade Tibet." The point to note is that Nehru, by sending mixed signals, showing more interest in Korea than in Tibet, had encouraged the Chinese invasion; the Chinese had made no secret of their desire to invade Tibet. In spite of this, Nehru's main interest was to sponsor China as a member of the UN Security Council instead of safeguarding Indian interests in Tibet. Because of this, when the Chinese were moving troops into Tibet, there was little concern in Indian official circles. Panikkar, the Indian Ambassador in Beijing, went so far as to pretend that there was 'lack of confirmation' of the presence of Chinese troops in Tibet and that to protest the Chinese invasion of Tibet would be an "interference to India's efforts on behalf of China in the UN". So Panikkar was more interested in protecting Chinese interests in the UN than India's own interests on the Tibetan border! Nehru agreed with his Ambassador. He wrote, "our primary consideration is maintenance of world peace... Recent developments in Korea have not strengthened China's position, which will be further weakened by any aggressive action [by India] in Tibet." So Nehru was ready to sacrifice India's national security interests in Tibet so as not to weaken China's case in the UN! It is nothing short of tragedy that the two greatest influences on Nehru at this
 
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Genesis    RE:The famous Himalayan blunder!!!   10/20/2005 9:09:03 AM
In retrospect...was patel a better choice to Nehru as India's first PM?
 
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bullseye    RE:The famous Himalayan blunder!!!   11/7/2005 2:33:23 AM
Genesis...can u give the link to your writeup ...interesting! also to answer ur ques"In retrospect...was patel a better choice to Nehru as India's first PM? " i many way YES...Patel was not marred by psuedo egos of world politics.Patel was a down to earth man unlike Nehru who was a dreamer...Nehru was always distracted by his own "english"image ...the history of India (and may be Pakistan) wud have been different if Patel had his say in the late 40s and 50s.
 
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bullseye    RE:The famous Himalayan blunder!!!   11/8/2005 7:56:33 AM
Army's failure added to Nehru's blunder The Times Of India[Monday, April 07, 2003 00:00] http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=454&t=1 Almost all accounts of Sino-Indian history place great blame for the Sino-Indian war on Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru. Despite great experience in foreign affairs, he failed to adequately read the new Communist leadership of China. But all accounts say that the key change occurred in 1954 when India formally accepted Chinese suzerainty over Tibet in exchange for vague professions of friendship. Once the Chinese had this in the bag, they began to push at the Himalayan borders. In the late 1950s, the Indian foreign policy establishment was not able to discern the Sino-Soviet split, an event of great significance that impacted on the Sino-Indian stand-off. The official history is most critical of the Army high command. It says that with the retirement of Gen Thimayya and Lt. Gens S D Verma and S P P Thorat, "the Army setup came to be dominated by officers who either shared the government assessment of the Chinese intentions or were to weak to stand up to the aggressive Krishna Menon always backed by Nehru." Nehru's Tibet blunder was now compounded by his belief that the Chinese would not react militarily to Indian Army posts that were established under the so-called forward policy. War eventually came when Brigadier John Dalvi was asked to use his 7 Brigade to evict Chinese forces from their militarily dominant positions on Thagla ridge. The official account acknowledges that the Indian troops facing the Chinese had obsolete weapons and did not have adequate winter clothing. There were no roads to service them and their positions were maintained by air-dropped supplies. But the official history is critical of Dalvi for not having deployed his brigade to facilitate its withdrawal when required. It is critical of the 4 divisional commander Maj Gen A S Pathania for being "too sensitive" to being outflanked and thus undermining the defence of Se La and Bomdi La. But concludes the official history, the Sino-Indian clash was "not a world shaking event" since just 2 1/2 Indian and 4 or 5 Chinese divisions were involved. Actually the attention of the world was elsewhere - on Cuba. This is where the Russians had placed medium range ballistic missiles. The Americans blockaded Cuba and demanded the withdrawal of the missiles and in the tense days that followed the world was came close to an all-out nuclear war.
 
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Genesis    RE:The famous Himalayan blunder!!!musloko-maro ???   11/17/2005 5:42:50 AM
""""In one of the earlier threads, this was General S P P Thorat, I had mentioned, who came from a well known family with a long drawn out legal dispute, rether a struggle, that last several centuries(?)""""" musloko-maro ----which thread r u taking about? -
 
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