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Riots ensued in Pakistan over their defeat 

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In fact Musharraf had advised against Kargil: 

 Knowing full well that they'd be defeated.

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 Benazir Bhutto called Kargil Pakistan' biggest blunder. 

Pakistani media lambasted the defeat of their own military

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Above shows how badly Pakistan screwed up the war

In contrast, India's stock market rose after the war,  the BJP got massive popularity, Indian media covered the war beautifully, and global support for India rose. America, Israel and India are strong allies now, and everybody knows the truth about Pakistan, a state populated by backward and uncivilized rejects from India who are only interested in terrorism, murder, the propagation of hate through Deobandi Muslim madrassas and the promulgation of genocide and slaughter.

India's effective victory

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 military budget skyrocketed, and India wound up with one of the largest armies in the world. India definitely won the war in all aspects. India also won the 1971 war with Pakistan, with about 1 lakh surrenders from Pakistan army, and the other wars were a strategic victory for India (if not a tactical one).

India is superior to Pakistan in every aspect imaginable. Better economy, higher GDP, higher human development indexmore stable politics (Pakistan has massive insurgency in Balochistan (nearly 1/4th of Pakistan), insurgencies in India have been small scale and quickly crushed except Kashmir, a tiny corner of India). Pakistan is an islamofascist state and is currently ranked 9th by the US congress as a failed state (Sudan is first, India is 97th or something, lower ie better than Honduras or even Mexico), India is multicultural, Pakistan is islamofascist, Pakistan breeds the worlds most terrorists, every Muslim terrorist has received training in Pakistan at some time or another. Pakistan is populated by racists. Punjab is dominated by Punjabi ethnocentrists, Sind by Sindhi ethnocentrists. Pakistan is violent.Pakistanis have lower average IQ's than Indians do. Pakistanis have more backward people per total population than India does (NWFP Pukhtun etc.), Pakistan has more desperation than India does, Pakistan is an antisemitic country with Jew-bashing conspiracy theories sold in every street corner in Lahore (Protocols of Zion etc.), Pakistanis murder Christians, Hindus, Jews and Zoroastrians every day. Christians in Pakistan live in mortal fear all the time.
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Pakistan committed genocide of more than a million people in Bangladesh in 1971

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Indian army has never done anything even remotely comparable (and most allegations to the contrary are made by Pakistani Muslim terrorists and their liberal sympathizers)

Pakistanis have no respect for the lives of non-Muslim "infidels". They regard themselves as racially superior to all others and only wish for war, death and destruction. Pakistan is ten times more dangerous than Iran. Pakistanis know how to hate before they know how to read.

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Hey fellow Indians don?t bully countries like Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan with your military might and don?t boast much; small country like Pakistan with small army can challenge India like that is it self is a defeat to India which has second largest military in the world.

I don?t say whether Pak won or lost technically but it definitely gave you very tough resistance/fight that it self I consider as India?s defeat.

India vs Pak comparison should be like USA vs Cuba but it is not like that in reality Pak did lot of progress in may areas (doesn?t matter it is because of American aid) and it also has nuclear weapons (does not matter that is with smuggled technology) and Pak is in a position that can give very tough resistance/fight to India. It never will be a catwalk to India to defeat Pak.

Compare Pak with similar countries like Afghanistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan and see how great Pak is in every aspect and compare your self with USA and China and see how inferior you are in all aspects.

Please let Pakistanis satisfy with their blogs, let them live with their happy feeling of that they have almost defeated India (that is true some extent), you don?t need to tell them the truth, fact will remain fact.

 India has world?s highest number of scientists and hundreds and thousands of well funded defence and non-defence scientific research laboratories, India produces more science and engineering graduates than whole Europe, India has many world top class institution like IIT, IIM, Business School and AIIMS (many analysts said they are better than MIT and Princeton), Indian?s are the most successful people everywhere in the world, India has world?s highest thorium resources and many other resources, I don?t even talk about the IT, Pharmacy and Bio Technology sectors where india is almost a leader, having all these and many other advantages India has huge poverty (like Pak, Bangladesh and other countries), India is not a very rich nation when compared with developed countries(improving conditions in India does not make any sense until your per capita is comparable with USA) and finally India is still in a position to receive tough fight/resistance from Pak that it self tells you that Pakistan is doing great job than India. Morally it is a Pakistan?s victory (does not matter it is using bad tactics like terrorism).

Hey fellow Indians don't bully countries like Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan with your military might and don't boast much; small country like Pakistan with small army can challenge India like that is it self is a defeat to India which has second largest military in the world.

I don't say whether Pak won or lost technically but it definitely gave you very tough resistance/fight that it self I consider as India's defeat.

India vs Pak comparison should be like USA vs Cuba but it is not like that in reality Pak did lot of progress in may areas (doesn't matter it is because of American aid) and it also has nuclear weapons (does not matter that is with smuggled technology) and Pak is in a position that can give very tough resistance/fight to India. It never will be a catwalk to India to defeat Pak.

Compare Pak with similar countries like Afghanistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan and see how great Pak is in every aspect and compare your self with USA and China and see how inferior you are in all aspects.

Please let Pakistanis satisfy with their blogs, let them live with their happy feeling of that they have almost defeated India (that is true some extent), you don't need to tell them the truth, fact will remain fact.

 India has world's highest number of scientists and hundreds and thousands of well funded defence and non-defence scientific research laboratories, India produces more science and engineering graduates than whole Europe, India has many world top class institution like IIT, IIM, Business School and AIIMS (many analysts said they are better than MIT and Princeton), Indian's are the most successful people everywhere in the world, India has world's highest thorium resources and many other resources, I don't even talk about the IT, Pharmacy and Bio Technology sectors where india is almost a leader, having all these and many other advantages India has huge poverty (like Pak, Bangladesh and other countries), India is not a very rich nation when compared with developed countries(improving conditions in India does not make any sense until your per capita is comparable with USA) and finally India is still in a position to receive tough fight/resistance from Pak that it self tells you that Pakistan is doing great job than India. Morally it is a Pakistan's victory (does not matter it is using bad tactics like terrorism).

Firstly, it was nice to see a whole lot of informative comments from Indians and people from other nationalities.

@Pakis: Kids?Do you have any source whatsoever to prove that you won a single confrontation with India (Please don?t mention Paki defence sites as your sources?I know what your Govt teaches you). Common?at least prove that your mothers have not given birth to dickless fools and show us some proofs like other members have shown.

Secondly, except pakis?anyone from any other nationalities did not support Pakistan?this proves that you are the only ones who keep shouting that you are great?Pakistan is great n all?dude?for a country to be great?it has to prove it financially, militarily, politically and technologically?

Financially - Pakistan is dependent on debt that comes from US and the entire world.
Militarily - Pakistan is dependent on US and China for every needle they need. Your so-called missile man was caught smuggling nuclear weapons
Politically - History of dictatorships, political killings since separation from India
Technologically - Oh sorry?this is not for you?You don?t know what technology is

Your weapon to fight the world is terrorism?or so-called jehad which is spoiling the name of innocent muslims around the world.

See what your Musharraf has to say below in an interview to BBC

?Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race?

- General Pervez Musharaff
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