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Subject: India vs Great Pakistan
TheOne    10/16/2005 11:18:41 AM
Pakistan--------------------India $2.7 Billion (Yearly Military Expense) $14,018.8 Million 3.9% (% of GNP) 2.4% 17 (Min. Enlist Age) 17 39,793,586 (Available Manpower) 293,677,117 550,000 (Active Military) 1,100,000 400,000 (Frontline Personnel) 800,000 1,012 ( Aircraft) 3,382 3,445 (Armor) 5,112 3,952 (Artillery) 7,169 2,100 (Missile Defense) 7,400 3,025 (Infantry Support) 7,100 And still Pakistan defeated them in 1948, 1965 and Kargil war. I know Indian will start to defend the defeat in above mentioned wars therefore I explain the victory of Pakistan below. 1948 War…Pakistan freed one- third (1/3) Kashmir in 1948 war known as AZAD |KASHMIR which clearly shows that Pakistan won against India. 1965 War…I personally believe that Pakistan won the 1965 war as India invaded war against Pakistan and Pakistan army successfully defend their country. For instant if I accept the Indian claim that 1965 war was a level war, no one win no one lose than I am afraid Pakistan won the war as they fight with 10 time bigger country/army. Kargil War… I can’t stop my laugh when Indians say that they won the Kargil War. Whole world knows that how Pakistan army slaughtered Indian army. Just consider some of the following facts;- Pakistan army was much less in numbers in Kargil war we can explain it in ratio as 1:30 (one man of Pakistan army and 30 men of Indian army) Pakistan didn’t put enough army because they tried to show them as kashmiri mujahidin . Pakistan army only used guns against India (they were not able to use air force, tanks and missile etc as they showed their army as kashmiri mujahidin) and as we all know in response Indian army used air force, tanks, chemical weapon etc and still they can’t beat Pakistan army. Pakistan shot down two of their fighter aircraft and destroyed two weapon stores, number of tanks and countless army members. Might be Indian remember when government decided to celebrate Kargil war anniversary and opposition criticized them by saying ‘you want to celebrate your defeate?’ Indian should be thankful to their DAD Bil Clinton who saved them otherwise???? You know better… One more thing whenever Pakistan fight against India Pakistan fight on his own but Indian fight with the help of their DAD America and granddad Israel. Indian can only win in propaganda war by the help of their DAD and granddad. please don’t call American and Israel link as natural link because DAD always do favor to son
 
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devojoyti halder       9/20/2011 7:04:19 AM
Here, i will comapare two countries India and Pakistan on basis of real military datas, read this and decide on your own........
                                                                             Airforce
  Fighters- pakistan's JF17 thunder, F16, dassault  mirage III and  5, and chengdu F-7.  Vs. indian mig29, mig27, mig 21, su-30mki, jaguar, mirage 2000, HAL tejas.
  transport-c-130 hercules, IL 78. Vs. Indian c-130 hercules,  IL-76, IL-78, an-32.
Helicopters-mi-17 and aloutte III vs.indian mi-8, mi-17, mi -26, mi-35, aloutte III.
  
conclusion- Indian airforce is better due to its high variety of aircrafts, advanced tecnology, 4 and 4.5 generation fighters and much more manpower than pakistan.and others aircraft like AWACAS and UAV aircraft that i had not mentioned. 
 
                                                                             Army
 
 Main Battle Tank- pakistanT-80, Al zarrar, Al Khalid Vs. indianT-90, T-72, Arjun MBT.
 Infantry- pakistan162000 active infantry equiped with g3 rifles. Vs indian 1100000 active infantry equipped with INSAS and AK rifles.
 
conclusion- Indian army is the second largest army after china. it is also more armoured than local foot infantry, contains more advanced tecnology. Indian army again hails here.
 
                                                                             Navy 
 
Aircraft carrier- pakistan none. vs, indian INS Viraat. 
Frigate- f-22 zulfikar , PNS alamgir ns. indian INS talwar, INS shivalik, INS satpura, and many more. 
 Submarine- agosta 90b class, agosta 70 vs. akula chakra(nuke sub),  sundhughosh class sub and shushumar class subs.
 
conclusion- Indian navy has more ships, subs, advanced weaponary, comapared to pakistans small navy. indian navy wins hands down. 
 
                                                                            Missiles(ICBMs, cruise missiles)
 
ballistic missiles-  ghaznavi, ghauri 1, 2, shaheen 1, 2. vs. agni-1,2,3,4,5, prithvi, shaurya
cruise missiles-  babur, hatf vs.brahmos.
 
conclusion- its gotta nearly tie about missiles of the both country. both have variety of missiles. pakistan has good variety of cruise and ballastic missiles with high accuracy and high technology, whereas india has long range accurate missiles, and superfast cruise missiles. no country wins here.
 
 
  OVERALL- India is good in all armed forces, due to high technology and  high number. also, pakistan is a small country with small economy. using nukes aganst india gives them certain disadvantage, as india's nukes can completely erase pakistan, whereas pak's nuke can only effect a small area due to india's vast region. In total examination, INDIA IS MORE POWERFUL THAN PAKISTAN.
 
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proud indian    ha ha lol    2/16/2012 3:41:04 PM
guys i think this discussion is pointleof thss when pakis have been declared terrorist by their breeder USA and the rest of the world also U.N. Declares india to be the winning country in both the wars.
 
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Sunrise       2/25/2012 9:46:35 AM
how come you can say this that Pak has defeated India. see in 1948,what u have claim that pak has taken most of the kashmir under him is just a wrong decision taken by our Idiot PM Neheru,when Indian forces was entering the Kashmir (POK) at that time he called back the soldiers and told we will sort it in UN. At that time our Home minister Ballabhai pateji  when just for 5 minutes he got late to reach All India radio when Bastard Neheru was giving statement that we are giving this issue to UN at that time Patel ji told " Jawahar bahot pachtayaga". And Sir I must tell you 1965 mein ceasefire aap logon ne hi bulaya tha. And off course u are telling that Pak have taken the kasmir part from India. Though its under UN so India is acting diplomatically. Jab aap logo se pure east pakistan chhura liya to teen districto wala kashmir chhurane mein kita din lagta hein. I heard the radio contact of the Pakistan airforce base with their HQ in bangladesh that was played by A TV channel on the occasion of a documentary film for MUKTI BAHINI 1971 few years back - the pak army was telling on radio contact - janab hindustani fighter plane ek marta hein to dusra aata hein, dusra jaata hein to teesra teyar,aur teesre ke peecke chautha aasman mein latak ta hein jabab, hum wapas aa rahe hein.this conversation is captured and given to a tv channel.
Now about kargil casualities, when a people attack you from the back then how could u save yourself.thats what happen to our soldiers who are got brutially killed by Pak forces. yes we didnt thought gaddar pakistan will do this when our Atal Ji went to pak for peace ties.Pak army was sitting in the top position to get them cleared India used bofors and Air strike. India never use latest supersonic fighter first , to test we used Mig 21 and Mig 27 which are ageing fleet and were about to out from the IAF.I still remember the air marshal at that time told to check the enemy range and feet of strike we used Migs. Tiger hill which was pakistans top position ,Indian army told with in 60 hrs we will get that and India got back the position. 
 
Pakis please dont dance on the mujaheedeen strength, they are not well trained. ek lakh mujaheedden ko khatam karne ke liye ek hafta bas.   So sir before write any thing kindly know the fact. 
 
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