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Subject: Can you compare India and Pakistan?
LogicalBuddy    8/22/2005 3:42:26 AM
Something about my Great Country India
Read this and please tell me if it is worth debating or comparing India and pakistan?
If yes please tell me in which sector pakistan can compete with India

1>India Largest Democracy in the world-: Population: 1.1 Bn

2>India 10th most industrialized country

3>The world's biggest back office

4>Among world's largest skilled workforce

5>Largest english speaking nation by 2010

6>800 movies made anuualy--bollywood overshadows hollywood

7>6 Miss Universe / Miss world titles in last 10 years

8>Low per capita income US $550 ; 26% live in poverty, literacy levels at 68%

9>The Indian Diaspora
38% of Doctors in AMerica are Indians
36% of NASA employees are Indians
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians
28% of IBM employeesare Indians
17% of Intel employees are Indians
13% of Zerox employees are Indians

10>India will eventually become world's third largest economy after China and the USA --Goldman Sachs

11>India among fastest growing GDP's in the world

12>India's GDP will exceed that of Italy in 2020, France in 2020, Germany in 2025 and Japan in 2035 -- Goldman Sachs

13>India's Foreign exchange reserves history
1990-91 $4 billion
1995-96 $20 billion
2001-02 $60 billion
2002-03 $76 billion
2003-04 $100 billion
2004-05 close to $150 billion

14>Indian Economy
Robust growth of manufacturing, agriculture and services
Low external debt
250 Fortune 500 companies outsource IT work to India
Increased disposable income, increased wealth
Large emerging affluent middle class

15>Indian Aviation
Air deccan--1 st low cose domestic carrier
Most international carriers now target India for network growth and profitability
$5 bn capital infusion in govt owned carriers
Airport privatization

16>India will be the second fastest growing travel and tourism market over 2005-2014 at 8.8% -- WTTC

17> Size of indian tourism is 330 million as of 2004

18>Indians going abroad as of 2004
Singapore -- 375,658
Saudi Arabia -- 373,636
UAE -- 336,046
Kuwait -- 293,621
Thailand -- 280,641
Bahrain -- 268,383
USA -- 257,271
China -- 213,611
U.K -- 205,065
Hongkong -- 193,705
NewZealand -- 16,862

19> India growth projections
1999 -- 2.7%
2000 -- 3.4%
2001 -- 3.6%
2002 -- 4.2%
2003 -- 4.5%
2004 -- 5.9%
2005 -- 6.9%
2006 -- 8.0%
2007 -- 9.4%
2008 -- 11%
2009 -- 12.8%
2010 -- 15%

20> Drivers of outbound growth
Increased charter operations
Upper middle income group will remain largest segment
potential consumer pie will grow to 300 Mn
Age group of 15 to 49 likely comprise 62%
Self-employed who account for over 40% will emerge as
high potential target market
Holiday finance will become popular

21> Over 50 million Indian's will travel overseas by 2020 -- WTO
 
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FACTS4ALL    FACTS FOR ALL....!!!   4/27/2007 1:18:13 AM
I dont know MUCH  about history as you guys do but here is a scientific verification of Vedic Knowledge... chech the link please. (copy & paste the link please.)

link
I will wait for comments on this from fellow Indian/Paki friends.

Singh

 
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FACTS4ALL    FACTS FOR ALL....!!!   4/27/2007 1:23:06 AM
one more link ( more detailed)
link
Singh

 
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enlighten       4/27/2007 6:44:28 PM
Pedophile worshipers dont understand the depth of Hinduism.
 
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aksingh       8/10/2007 11:24:01 PM

What I find perplexing is that most of the Pakistanis claim to be descended from Arabs though it has been proven that they are not. Case in the point being Arians, awans, syeds communities of Pakistan.

 

Further what I find bemusing is that most of the Pakistani or Indian Muslims converted to Islam under the threat of sword. Case in the point being the Iqbal's family the national poet of Pakistan.

 

Even more perplexing was during the mughal times some muslim rajputs supported their Hindu rajput brethren against the mughal king and even to this day in UP, India some rajput Muslims and Hindus have bonds of camaraderie.

 

The muslim jatts, gakhars, rajputs, tarkhans, khukrains, lohana, khatris, bhatia etc. all have similar culture to their sikh and hindu counterparts.

 

This goes to show that Islam was a choice for them between death and life. There are many cases in the history where the hindus refused to convert to islam and happily gave their lives though sadly the number of those who converted far outweigh them.

 

So for a Pakistani to feel proud of Ghauri, Babur, Aurangzeb, Abdali, Nadir Shah,  and Ghazni is an insult to their ancestors, culture and their family names. As these people not only killed Hindus but also fellow Muslims not belonging to their tribe, sect etc. and they converted their ancestors to Islam by the force of their sword. So in a way it is astonishing to read that Pakistanis are proud of these people they should rather be ashamed of them and the incompetence and cowardice of their ancestors.


 
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patriotic       3/1/2008 8:00:34 AM
aksingh{Pakistani or Indian Muslims converted to Islam under the threat of sword} your this theory has been disproved a long time ago. that time after the arrival of muhammad bin qasim many people converted into muslims by fascinating of muslims' chracters. further, today ratio of the people changing their religion islam is no 1. In europe many people are being muslims and changing their religion. what do you think they are being forced.
no body can convert anybody to any religion by  the threat of sword

And I would like to say is that, India and Pakistan the discusion is who is superior??? I say no one is superior. we are not in the condition in which we should be. korea were made after a long time ago from pakistan and india and now is a development country and there are many other examples like this

our founders like Quad-e-Azam and Ghandi both died after 1947. after that both countries didnt develope as fast as they should have been. and now we are 100years behind from america, china, russia, japan, germany, britian etc etc

so, we should ponder to bring our country to that position where those countries are standing not to discuss with each other.
 
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haider miankhail    pakistan is better than india   10/3/2008 4:42:39 AM
I AGREE THAT PAK IS MUCH BEHIND THAN INDIA BUT ARE INDIANS HUMAN BEINGS.SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN KASHMIR.DOES ANY INDIAN HAVE CAPABILITY OF MAKING A GROUP WHICH FIGHT FOR HIS COUNTRY.CAN INDIA BEAT PAKISTAN WHITH OUT BACK BITING IT.WHAT IS THE USE OF SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY WHEN IT IS STILL CONTROLLED BY AMERICANS.THANKS.AND I HAVE AN ADVICE THAT NEVER EVER UNDER ESTIMATE OUR PAKISTAN.
 
 
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haider miankhail    difference b/w islam nd hinduism   10/4/2008 9:09:28 AM
pedophile worshiper cant understan hinduism.hinduism is what.what is their to understand.they make  their god themself.so what this mean they make their god or they are made by their god?reply must.
 
 
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pak123       4/7/2009 7:29:21 PM

Agriculture is the mainstay of Pakistan's economy, employing more than 40% of the population. Cotton, wheat, rice, sugarcane, fruits, vegetables, and tobacco are the chief crops, and cattle, sheep, and poultry are raised. There is also a fishing industry. Most of Pakistan's agricultural output comes from the Indus basin. The country is now self-sufficient in food, as vast irrigation schemes have extended farming into arid areas, and fertilizers and new varieties of crops have increased yields.

Pakistan's industrial base is able to supply many of the country's needs in consumer goods and other products. The country major manufactures textiles (the biggest earner of foreign exchange), processed foods, pharmaceuticals, construction materials, paper products, and fertilizer. Remittances from Pakistanis working abroad constitute the second largest source of foreign exchange. Since the mid-1950s electric power output has greatly increased, mainly because of the development of hydroelectric power potential and the use of thermal power plants.
The chief trading partners are the United States, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and China.
 
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pak123    pakistan is the best    4/7/2009 7:32:33 PM
The economy of Pakistan is the26th  economy in the world in terms of purchasing power, and the 47th in absolute dollar terms. Pakistan's economy mainly encompasses textiles, chemicals, food processing, agriculture and other industries. In 2005, it was the third fastest growi
 
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pak123    pakistan is the best    4/7/2009 7:35:07 PM

The economy of Pakistan is the26th  economy in the world in terms of purchasing power, and the 47th in absolute dollar terms. Pakistan's economy mainly encompasses textiles, chemicals, food processing, agriculture and other industries. In 2005, it was the third fastest growi


GDP growth, spurred by gains in the industrial and service sectors, remained in the 6-8% range in 2004-06. In 2005, the World Bank named Pakistan the top reformer in its region and in the top 10 reformers globally. [5]Islamabad has steadily raised development spending in recent years, including a 52% real increase in the budget allocation for development in FY07, a necessary step toward reversing the broad underdevelopment of its social sector
 
Economic resilience
Aerial view of financial district of Karachi

Historically, Pakistan's overall economic output (GDP) has grown every year since a 1951 recession. Despite this record of sustained growth, Pakistan's economy had, until a few years ago, been characterized as unstable and highly vulnerable to external and internal shocks. However, the economy proved to be unexpectedly resilient in the face of multiple adverse events concentrated into an eight-year period —

Despite these adverse events, Pakistan's economy kept growing, and economic growth accelerated towards the end of this period. This resilience has led to a change in perceptions of the economy, with leading international institutions such as the IMF, World Bank, and the ADB praising Pakistan's performance in the face of adversity.

Additional confirmation that the country's economy is not as weather-sensitive as had been previously perceived comes from a 2008 analysis that "examined 68 countries, quantifying their sensitivity to fluctuations in weather, using figures on GDP by industry sector and the sensitivity of particular sectors to given weather variables." The analysis found that of the 68 countries, the "least weather-sensitive country was Pakistan."

 
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pak123    pakistan is the best    4/7/2009 7:39:48 PM

According to many sources, the Pakistani government has made substantial economic reforms since 2000, and medium-term prospects for job creation and poverty reduction are the best in nearly a decade.

Government revenues have greatly improved in recent years, as a result of economic growth, tax reforms - with a broadening of the tax base, and more efficient tax collection as a result of self-assessment schemes and corruption controls in the Central Board of Revenue - and the privatization of public utilities and telecommunications. Pakistan is aggressively cutting tariffs and assisting exports by improving ports, roads, electricity supplies and irrigation projects. Islamabad has doubled development spending from about 2% of GDP in the 1990s to 4% in 2003, a necessary step towards reversing the broad underdevelopment of its social sector.

Liberalization in the international textile trade has already yielded benefits for Pakistan's exports, and the country also expects to profit from freer trade in agriculture. As a large country, Pakistan hopes to take advantage of significant economies of scale, and to replace China as the largest textile manufacturer as the latter China moves up the value-added chain. These industries play to Pakistan's relative strengths in low labor costs.

Growing stability in the nation's monetary policies has contributed to a reduction in money-market interest rates, and a great expansion in the quantity of credit, changing consumption and investment patterns in the nation. Pakistan's domestic natural gas production, and its significant use of CNG in automobiles, has cushioned the effect of the oil-price shock of 2004-2005. Pakistan is also moving away from the doctrine of import substitution which some developing countries (such as Iran) dogmatically pursued in the twentieth century. The Pakistani government is now pursuing an export-driven model of economic growth successfully implemented by South East Asia and now highly successful in China.

In 2005, the World Bank reported that

"Pakistan was the top reformer in the region and the number 10 reformer globally — making it easier to start a business, reducing the cost to register property, increasing penalties for violating corporate governance rules, and replacing a requirement to license every shipment with two-year duration licenses for traders."[11]

In addition, reduced tensions with India and the ongoing peace process raise new hopes for a prosperous and stable South Asia, with more intra-regional trade. However, due to global economic crisis in year 2007-2008 the economic progress has been adveresely affected and unemployment has increased.

 
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mazin0v       4/8/2009 12:59:41 AM
i've read some of the arguments, and i still can't figure out why these topics always veer towards religion (islam in particular). being smart or creative is NOT (in my opinion) connected with what you happen to believe in. curiosity is a genetic thing that doesn't differentiate between religions...
 
also, why are you guys starting a war over this? i'm not a pacifist, but i feel that starting a war over who invented the number 0 is absurd and retarded.
 
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TheRule    UNITY is the key   8/2/2009 1:17:20 PM
What is the actual problem with India and pakistan?
=>Pakistan wants Kashmir because it has muslim majority and india wants it because of "Maharaja of Kashmir" aggreed to join india at that time.
 
My honest opinion...
As far as legality is concern i am with india [not because i am indian].
we have seen riots against minority in india and in pakistan [so no one is pak].
Technicaly, india has more power than pakistan but india not using it, and pakistan has little of it but they are showing they have more.
It's not all about Hinds and muslims, it's all about politics.
Many of Pakistani peoples are brain washed by Extremists, it also happens in india but at low level.
......
Respect all religion and think from your mind not from your heart...because some politicians are using your filling to rule us  and we all are following them like a fool....
we[indians and pakistanies] need to unite.
 
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divinetruth    India please improve debating skills   8/19/2009 4:19:04 PM
1.)India Largest Democracy in the world-: Population: 1.1 Bn  [Wrong they are not certain characteristics of a democracy that one can say my nation has and not the other. Majority of Punjab is still the only caste system left in the world, Hinduism itself is based on the caste system .]
 
2.) India 10th most industrialized country [Ever wondered why let me tell you because your democratic state treates majoirty of its population like slaves.
 
3.) Among world's largest skilled workforce [haha OKAY maybe you need to watch movies like slumdogg millionaite to show you how skilled majoirty of India is. if you mean fortune tellers and tantrics maybee you could be right
 
9>The Indian Diaspora
38% of Doctors in AMerica are Indians
36% of NASA employees are Indians
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians
28% of IBM employeesare Indians
17% of Intel employees are Indians
13% of Zerox employees are Indians -MAJORTY OF THESE INDIANS WERE EDUCATED OUTSIDE OF INDIA AND DO NOT HOLD INDIAN PASSPORTS ANY MORE . AND IF I WERE TO ASK THIER CHILDREN WHERE THEY WERE FROM THEY WOULD SAY WITH A SMILE I AM FROM AMRIKA. so nope they are not indian they are foreigniers . 
 
who ever said muslims didn invent anything please follow this link
link :)
 
4.) 5>Largest english speaking nation by 2010 [Because they kiss English ass and are not proud of thier own language look at indian movies, they are now a remix of english and hindi . ANY MAYBE BECAUSE YOUR NATION HAS THE SECOND HIGHEST POPULATION IN THE WORLD. honestly the dumbest facts in the world.
 
13>India's Foreign exchange reserves history
1990-91 $4 billion
1995-96 $20 billion
2001-02 $60 billion
2002-03 $76 billion
2003-04 $100 billion
2004-05 close to $150 billion  - you fucking retard thats the same with all countries dont judge it by how much financial wealth it has, but how it helps its people with the money. And i have no interets in talking about how the majoirty of indians still piss and shit in the street. go see people who live near river ganges
 
15>Indian Aviation [compare it to pakistan aviation yourself 
 
NOW LETS TALK THE TRUTH ABOUT INDIA ... THIER MEN HAVE THE SMALLEST DICKS IN THE WORLD link [GO LINK] THEY ARE UGLIEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WITH OVER A BILLION A FEW MILLION ARE DECENT AND A FEW THOUSAND ARE HOT .. FUCK GO SEE SOUTH INDIANS RAJNIKANTH FUCK .. WORLDS BIGGEST SEX TRADE BOYS LETS NOT FORGET CHILD PROSTITUION ... YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STAND IN WORLD GDP BUT DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STAND IN THE WORLD HEALTH CONCERNS CHART OR WORLD HIV CHARTS I GUESS NOT
 
THIS WAS A VERY BIASED DEBATE AS YOU ARE COMPARING ONE HUGE NATION TO A SMALL NATION . AND AFTER LOOKING AT ALL THIS IM HAPPY IM PAKISTANI :)
 
 
 
 
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proudindian       9/2/2009 1:01:16 PM
I think this fellow- pakiboy 12345 seems to be the most intelligent guy in the whole world. this guy has absolutely no knowledge regarding English language, and has written 'thought' in place of 'taught'. i can understand it because he is a PAKISTANI, a nation where a gun is given to the child before pen, a handbomb instead of football, and Jehad is taught instead of regular syllabus covering science and technology. Pakistan is better than India in technology ? Ha ha, this should be given the award for the best joke of decade.(you good for nothing pakis, go and see the international ranking regarding institutes, our IITs are in the top 50 whereas not a single institute from your nation is in top 500.) your rulers have killed democracy long back, and most of them get assassinated as soon as they step down from presidentship. World knows Pakistan has always started a war and India has ended it with a new glory each time.
 
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