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Subject: Can you compare India and Pakistan?
LogicalBuddy    8/22/2005 3:42:26 AM
Something about my Great Country India
Read this and please tell me if it is worth debating or comparing India and pakistan?
If yes please tell me in which sector pakistan can compete with India

1>India Largest Democracy in the world-: Population: 1.1 Bn

2>India 10th most industrialized country

3>The world's biggest back office

4>Among world's largest skilled workforce

5>Largest english speaking nation by 2010

6>800 movies made anuualy--bollywood overshadows hollywood

7>6 Miss Universe / Miss world titles in last 10 years

8>Low per capita income US $550 ; 26% live in poverty, literacy levels at 68%

9>The Indian Diaspora
38% of Doctors in AMerica are Indians
36% of NASA employees are Indians
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians
28% of IBM employeesare Indians
17% of Intel employees are Indians
13% of Zerox employees are Indians

10>India will eventually become world's third largest economy after China and the USA --Goldman Sachs

11>India among fastest growing GDP's in the world

12>India's GDP will exceed that of Italy in 2020, France in 2020, Germany in 2025 and Japan in 2035 -- Goldman Sachs

13>India's Foreign exchange reserves history
1990-91 $4 billion
1995-96 $20 billion
2001-02 $60 billion
2002-03 $76 billion
2003-04 $100 billion
2004-05 close to $150 billion

14>Indian Economy
Robust growth of manufacturing, agriculture and services
Low external debt
250 Fortune 500 companies outsource IT work to India
Increased disposable income, increased wealth
Large emerging affluent middle class

15>Indian Aviation
Air deccan--1 st low cose domestic carrier
Most international carriers now target India for network growth and profitability
$5 bn capital infusion in govt owned carriers
Airport privatization

16>India will be the second fastest growing travel and tourism market over 2005-2014 at 8.8% -- WTTC

17> Size of indian tourism is 330 million as of 2004

18>Indians going abroad as of 2004
Singapore -- 375,658
Saudi Arabia -- 373,636
UAE -- 336,046
Kuwait -- 293,621
Thailand -- 280,641
Bahrain -- 268,383
USA -- 257,271
China -- 213,611
U.K -- 205,065
Hongkong -- 193,705
NewZealand -- 16,862

19> India growth projections
1999 -- 2.7%
2000 -- 3.4%
2001 -- 3.6%
2002 -- 4.2%
2003 -- 4.5%
2004 -- 5.9%
2005 -- 6.9%
2006 -- 8.0%
2007 -- 9.4%
2008 -- 11%
2009 -- 12.8%
2010 -- 15%

20> Drivers of outbound growth
Increased charter operations
Upper middle income group will remain largest segment
potential consumer pie will grow to 300 Mn
Age group of 15 to 49 likely comprise 62%
Self-employed who account for over 40% will emerge as
high potential target market
Holiday finance will become popular

21> Over 50 million Indian's will travel overseas by 2020 -- WTO
 
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Brahma    RE:Can you compare India and Pakistan?   8/22/2005 3:52:24 AM
{38% of Doctors in AMerica are Indians 36% of NASA employees are Indians 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians 28% of IBM employeesare Indians 17% of Intel employees are Indians 13% of Zerox employees are Indians} I'd told this to that idiot-truthisbitter.But he was too shocked to beleive it!!!! Btw, it is 36% of NASA scientists, not the total employees.
 
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Brahma    RE:Can you compare India and Pakistan?   8/22/2005 4:00:36 AM
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MORE! Q. Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems? A. Vinod Khosla Q. Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today's computers run on it)? A. Vinod Dahm Q. Who is the third richest man on the world? A. According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is Aziz Premji, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6 th position now. Q. Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web based email program)? A. Sabeer Bhatia Q. Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)? A. Arun Netravalli Q. Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard? A. Rajiv Gupta Q. Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems? A. Sanjay Tejwrika Q. Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart? A. Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar. Q. We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even faring better than the whites and the natives. There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET, 38% of doctors in USA are Indians. 12% scientists in USA are Indians. 36% of NASA scientists are Indians. 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians. 28% of IBM employees are Indians. 17% of INTEL scientists are Indians. 13% of XEROX employees are Indians. Some of the following facts may be known to you. These facts were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT INDIA. 1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history. 2. India invented the Number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta. 3. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4 th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education. 4. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software. 5. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. 6. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth. 7. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH. 8. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan's works dates to the 6 th Century which is long before the European mathematicians. 9. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11 th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 1053. 10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world. 11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi. 12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra. 13. Chess was invented in India. 14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India. 15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilisation). 16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC. Quotes about India. We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made. Albert Einstein. India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition. Mark Twain. If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India. French scholar Romain Rolland. India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border. Hu Shih (former Chinese ambassador to USA) ALL OF THE ABOVE IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, THE LIST COULD BE ENDLESS.
 
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LogicalBuddy    Great stuff Brahma   8/22/2005 4:14:47 AM
That was great..Thanks for adding some some stuff about indians....People like truth is bitter, mother of pakisatan are alsays surprised when they come acroos stuff like "indian scientists in NASA"..cant help it..they lived in a society ruled by islamic clerics ..they are brainwashed by islamic fundamentals..they still are in 18th century..it's time we guys in this forum gave them a taste of indian prowess..
 
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coolboyjay    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 6:25:27 AM
By getting excited, Bhrama has put in wrong facts: 1. Zero was not invented by Aryabhatta. 2. India was not the only source of Diamonds in the Medivial ages. De beers was founded in 1888 and surely, its founder was not indian. 3. Trigonometry is closer to ancient egypt than to India. There are many other's, but I would like to end it here. My advice to u. Try and verify whatever you are posting.
 
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LogicalBuddy    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 6:43:55 AM
coolboyjay said >>>By getting excited, Bhrama has put in wrong facts: 1. Zero was not invented by Aryabhatta. 2. India was not the only source of Diamonds in the Medivial ages. De beers was founded in 1888 and surely, its founder was not indian. 3. Trigonometry is closer to ancient egypt than to India. There are many other's, but I would like to end it here. My advice to u. Try and verify whatever you are posting.<<< Cool...we indians accept our mistakes...we are not masters in everything...but we are definetly good...lol ... As far as i know, Brahma wrote facts...Zero was ofcourse invented by Aryabhatta..i dont know about diamonds and trignometry stuff...but definetly zero was invented by Aryabhatta.. Here are the links to support it link link link
 
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Brahma    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 7:09:23 AM
{By getting excited, Bhrama has put in wrong facts}jay Actually I found these in one of the Yahoo groups. link {u need an account to sign in) I also have a file in pps format which I got through an e-mail.......I thought they would all be facts........hmmmmm.....now I've got to do some kinda research..........
 
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Brahma    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 7:18:17 AM
JAY ,check this out: link All the stuff abt diomonds,trignometry( actually the word trigonometry was derived from sanskrit--I'm pretty sure of this),Zero...everything is given.
 
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LogicalBuddy    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 7:20:51 AM
Cool...now that tells a lot abt India....:)
 
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coolboyjay    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 7:59:00 AM
Well, all the links that u provided were not credible ones. Actually, the zero, or shunya as we say it sanskrit, has been around from times immemorial.. surely much before 300 BC (that's the time aryabhatta was going around) ---------------------- Indian child is a biased site and might not give u the best information. I'm not saying this to hurt anyone's feelings or to degrade our great country. Its just that I know India is great without exaggerating the facts. So why do it?
 
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LogicalBuddy    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 8:07:30 AM
coolboyjay said >>>Well, all the links that u provided were not credible ones. Actually, the zero, or shunya as we say it sanskrit, has been around from times immemorial.. surely much before 300 BC (that's the time aryabhatta was going around)<<<< Dude i dont know what to say These are a few more links..they are not biased.Please check them link link link link
 
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Brahma    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 8:14:25 AM
Yeah!You are right. It's very difficult to prove these stuffs ,especially after those muslim invaders raped India.But, you know, the points might be true.After all we had such a glorius past. Yes, India is still a great country without these,but there is nothing wrong in atleast claiming them!:)
 
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coolboyjay    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 8:18:50 AM
Trigons in ancient latin also means Triangles. Meterus means to measure. Hence Trigonometry. Zero - How do u explain Shunya in our Vedas and Puranas, Mahabharata and Ramayana if Aryabhatta invented Zero? I was wrong about the timeline of Aryabhatta : He was born in 476 Ad. link Sometimes we have to use our common sense, and not just go by what we hear or see. Aryabhatta was involved in making the zero known to the world. But he surely did not invent it.
 
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pakiboy12345    RE:Can you compare India and Pakistan?   8/22/2005 8:30:53 AM
I think pakitan has also contributed in the field of mathematics and sciece than the indians.the indians no need to feel proud of themselves.pakistan is better in nuclear weapons and science and technology. america and britan has pakistan scientists. prophet thought us how to live and contribute to world. muslims are most intelligent in the world
 
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Brahma    RE:GUYS don't overdo it.   8/22/2005 8:50:50 AM
{Trigons in ancient latin also means Triangles. Meterus means to measure. Hence Trigonometry.}jay trikonamiti(sanskrit)=trigonometry(english). sounds quite similar ,isn't it?And Sanskrit is older than Latin and Hebrew(?). The fact is, the Indian culture never spread out of India.The Arabs came to India and borrowed some stuff and then projected to Europe as their own.So maybe trigonometry originated in India.It's just that we dont have any conclusive evidence to prove our claims. { Zero - How do u explain Shunya in our Vedas and Puranas, Mahabharata and Ramayana if Aryabhatta invented Zero? I was wrong about the timeline of Aryabhatta : He was born in 476 Ad.}jay well,Aryabhatta invented the mathematical'0'.i.e 0 cannot be ignored in mathematical calculations.This is as good as inventing it.
 
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Brahma    RE:Can you compare India and Pakistan?   8/22/2005 8:52:56 AM
{I think pakitan has also contributed in the field of mathematics and sciece than the indians.the indians no need to feel proud of themselves.pakistan is better in nuclear weapons and science and technology. america and britan has pakistan scientists. prophet thought us how to live and contribute to world. muslims are most intelligent in the world }pb Please!this is quite a serious discussion!
 
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