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Subject: The What was that 'mysterious' flying object? Thread
VelocityVector    11/9/2010 3:33:23 PM
h**p://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/11/curiousity-over-mystery-missile-online.html There have been a number of interesting plume sightings off SoCal recently and I wanted to solicit your speculation and commentary. With the latest event I note that our military has stated with certitude that national security was not jeoparized. I take this to mean the military actually knows what occurred but it ain't saying. So my WAG is that we are witnessing the testing of ballistic missile launches from shipboard containers as a means of improving our defenses against this emerging threat vector. Thoughts? v^2
 
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gf0012-aust       11/9/2010 3:39:31 PM
you would expect to see "declared air space" provisions and NOTAMs issued if it was a Govt event.
 
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AThousandYoung       11/9/2010 4:07:48 PM

you would expect to see "declared air space" provisions and NOTAMs issued if it was a Govt event.

David B (valleyswede) wrote:

From SF Chronicle post:

KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

Translation:
Location near Los Angeles has been declared to be active restricted operating zone for pilots who are not affiliated with the Naval Air Warfare Center. Pilots navigating with instruments will be steered around the zone by air traffic controllers. Zone starts at sea level and extends up to 39k feet. Active 10/9 - 10/10
Zulu time is 8 hours different, which puts this alert prior to the launch. Our side. Somebody at the Navy just didn't get the memo.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/11/09/131187504/-mystery-missile-launch-leaves-california-scratching-its-head?sc=tw&cc=share
 
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VelocityVector       11/10/2010 2:30:35 PM
 
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VelocityVector    Illusion   11/10/2010 2:34:37 PM
h**p://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/09/AR2010110903136.html
 
Apparently a jet airplane contrail viewed under confluence of atmospheric conditions is responsible for the event.  (Although I am interested in the Chinook helicopter captured by the video.)  I buy the contrail explanation, regardless, and in retrospect it seems pretty obvious.
 
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WarNerd    Flight AWE808   11/11/2010 1:27:12 AM
 
"Note to the media ? since this was almost certainly Flight AWE808 from Hawaii to Phoenix, why not have a camera crew somewhere in the vicinity (does not need to be exact, or a chopper), at around 5-5:30 today (or rather, on Friday, as there was no flight on Wednesday or Thursday ? check the schedule for AWE808 first), and if the weather is right you?ll see the same trail again. (or check the web cam)

Note to everyone else ? If you have photos of the Nov 8 contrail from any angle, please email them to uncinus@gmail.com"

 
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